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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 09:16 am:   

Now, if on November 9th there is a major attack …
Posted on Monday, October 30, 2006 - 10:16 pm: Ivan


I fervently hope there is no more war. One of my intentions of posting about a possible war after the elections was that by airing that idea it might happen that it does not occur. Notice that after 9/11 any potential attack that was mentioned aloud did not take place. In that spirit I hope that there be no new hostilities after the election. Still the following developments are note worthy.

http://wholelifetimes.com/2006/11/excerpt0611.html
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Their newest book looks to the role propaganda, PR and marketing played in our nation’s willingness to execute war …

Each of these twists and turns in policy has been accompanied by a combination of triumphal rhetoric about America’s lofty aims and dire warnings about the consequences that will follow if America fails to act. …

As this book neared completion, American politicians and pundits had begun to talk about attacking Iran, using rhetoric very similar to the arguments that led to the current quagmire in Iraq. …

Rather than an expansion of the war, we believe that public disillusionment and the growing civil war in Iraq will eventually force US policymakers to withdraw American troops.
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But would that happen?

http://www.nysun.com/article/42578?page_no=2
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It is almost like he has thrown caution to the wind," G. Terry Madonna, a political science professor and pollster at Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, Pa., told The New York Sun. "He has forsaken any effort to make this about his seniority, his experience, the millions he has brought home in appropriations. He has turned this into a debate on the future of the country."

Mr. Santorum, however, said he has emphasized national security all along. He pointed to his sponsorship of the Iran Freedom and Support Act, which was signed into law with modifications in September.
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What would that act do for the security of USA?

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-sawyer29oct29,0,3390725.story?coll=la- opinion-rightrail
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Four weeks ago, Congress enacted and President Bush signed the Iran Freedom Support Act, a resolution very much in the spirit of the 1998 Iraq Liberation Act. It mandates sanctions against any country aiding Iran's nuclear programs, even those to which that country is legally entitled under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. …

But if the confrontation over Iran's alleged nuclear weapons program ends in war — initiated by this administration or the next — you can bet this law will be cited as proof that Congress was onboard all along.
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Let us turn optimists. Let us assume that the People speak and that based on the elections to be held on November 7, 2006 both the Congress and the Senate comes under the control of the Democrats. Let us also assume that the intransigence of Iran needs to be countered. Further assume that the UN Security Council is deadlocked on a resolution authorizing war on Iran.

What happens if the administration starts a war on Iran and causes avoidable bloodshed? Can the new Congress and the Senate clarify that the ‘Iran Freedom Support Act’ did not authorize the war against Iran? Assuming that the Congress and the Senate do explain can this administration be impeached on the basis of starting the war on Iran without authorization?

Can we say a future war on Iran soon after the election would handicap reason?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 01:56 pm:   

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8508100451
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Addressing a press conference here on Wednesday, commander-in-chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Major General Seyed Yahya Rahim Safavi said that the war games to be carried out by the IRGC's fourfold forces, i.e. IRGC air force, ground force, navy and Basij (mobilized) troops, will last till November 11.

… He said the war games would start with the launching of tens of missiles, including Shahab 2s and 3s with armed warheads and a range of beyond 1000 kilometers and hundreds of rockets and other missiles each with different ranges starting from 150 kilometers.
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This war game is the most stupid act one can imagine!
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Ivan
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 07:08 pm:   

Iran's Ambitions are not to be Ignored.

Iran is now under scrutiny, for possible war footing by both Iran and its nuclear ambitions, as well as the West weary of further attacks by radical Islamists.

Here is a good article by BBC: Mixedd reception for Iran's ex-president. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6104638.stm

The feeling one gets from former president Khatami's address is that efforts at liberalism in Iran, something the urban educated people would welcome, is hard in coming while the ayatollah system controls through their Council of Guardians. Throw in the Mahdi complex touted by now president Ahmadhijad, and one gets a strange mix of reality and myth. How does one understand modern Iran, when it is so deeply rooted in the past? Khatami's good intentions may be blocked by the Guardians, so what do we get? It looks a muddle.

On the other hand, here is Daniel Pipes article "Decision Time on Iran", where a harder stance against Iran may be justified.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=25234

"Admittedly, these no-war, no-nukes scenarios are creative. But they no longer offer have a prospect of success, for the situation has become crude and binary: either the U.S. government deploys force to prevent Tehran from acquiring nukes, or Tehran acquires them."

Crude and binary is what it must come down to, if Tehran will have nukes, and cannot be ignored. However, war with a nuclear Iran is a looming reality, which may end in myth come true, or the 'end of days'. I hope there is a non-binary third option, God willing.

Ivan
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:02 am:   

I hope there is a non-binary third option, God willing.
Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 07:08 pm: Ivan


Iran desires to develop the technology for increasing the concentration of the fissile materials claiming that the technology is needed for power industry.

The West is apprehensive that the enriched Uranium could be used to make nuclear bombs.

Russia as the technology supplier would like to retain its business prospects not only with Iran but with other developing countries without nuclear plants.

What about shifting the plant to produce enriched Uranium to the Russian soil and letting the Iranians operate the plant. The Iranians develop the technology that they desire. The enriched Uranium stays inside Russia which any way has umpteen number of nuclear weapons.

As regards the energy for Iranian projects, the power reactors are assembled inside Iran under the direct supervision of IAEA. The fuel rods prepared by Iranians in the Russian located plant are placed and sealed under the direct supervision of IAEA. These plants are designed such that any attempt to access the fuel rods inside the power plants would ring alarms in IAEA and other monitoring centers. The spent fuel rods are shipped to the Iranian run enrichment facility inside Russia and held under joint Russian and Iranian control.

Such an arrangement permits Iran to train her subjects on the technology and removes the anxiety of the West by keeping the enriched fuel on the Russian soil.

Could the above work as a third option?
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Andnomas
Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:35 pm:   

U.S. officer describes disarray in Iraqi army
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/11/02/training.iraqis/index.html

Iraq and cultural differences makes war capability nebulous. It's that "inshallah fatalism" , as Lt. Col. Grunow explains:

"One trait of Iraqis is that they are "fatalistic, surrendering their future to the will of Allah. This explains how they can continue to function despite daily car bombings, atrocities and murders that have touched nearly every family."
He wrote the "most frustrating aspect" of this viewpoint is that "it translates into a lack of diligence and detailed planning.""

Cultural differences not only on what freedom means, or democracy, but also how they fight. Maybe we're done training, and so now must leave it to the Iraqi's with their "God's will" futurist fatalism. Better if it were not so, but wishing does not make it so, as "inshallah" is not a strategy.

God help all the good, freedom loving Iraqis when Western Alliance pulls out. Freedom means they must deal with their own devils. Four years is all we could give them, same as WW II, then up to them.

Or if only conditional pull out, maintain Allied bases in Kurdistan on Iran border, fly overs on Syrian border, and bomb anything that moves. Israel knew what to do on Lebanon border. If they don't like it, tell them it's "inshallah's will", and tough tushkies. War is hell if you can't control your imams vitriolic hate.
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Naive
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 02:14 am:   

Sometimes regions develop dictatorships because that is what is required to cull the masses, to handle the many social intricacies of that culture.

Our government destroyed the balance that was the Iraqi society. I won't get into the reasoning or justifications. What I will say is that, invading a country with full knowledge of the long term social and economic chaos it will cause, is in itself a form of global terrorism!

Is it any wonder our government is hated abroad? The irresponsibility of this administration with the Iraq situation is outrageous. So too is the American public's apathy. People over there are dying and we are the cause!

I will not go so far as Mohideen with the conspiracy theories. But I will say our government has always been opportunistic in its usage of world political affairs in order to affect control mechanisms at home (homeland security). What an oxymoron!

They monitor us, but cut spending to schools, keeping our nation's youth and underpriviledged in a perpetual state of ignorance and economic deprivation. We are made to be ignorant consumers who seek and measure happiness through material gain. We are expected to be blindly patriotic and loyal to a government that answers to no one. See how quickly criticism arose over Kerry's remarks. Speak a word against the war effort and you are not a real American!

We are so quick to condemn those in the Muslim world for the "backwardness" of their belief system, but look at us. We let our government run wild, pulling whatever wool over our eyes they wish. And we turn a blind eye to an atrocious situation of our creating, because we have let our government tell us it is the right thing to do.

Indeed, war handicaps reason!

Only a fool would believe our government does not use this knowledge in a psychological warfare against the freewill of its own people!

Naive
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 07:45 am:   

Could we heave a sigh of relief?

http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/read_article.php?id=279765
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November 02, 2006

It was synchronized perfectly with reports of a massive U.S. naval buildup, allegedly in preparation for a strike against Iran. Just two days ago, the USS Enterprise Carrier Strike Group (CSG) passed the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower CSG in the Red Sea on its way back to Norfolk in the course of a regularly scheduled carrier rotation. The USS Iwo Jima Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG) has already left the gulf and is now in the North Arabian Sea. Its replacement, the USS Boxer ESG, has split up, but the bulk of it remains in the Indian Ocean.

These assets, plus the USS Essex ESG and the USS Kitty Hawk, which never moved farther than the South China Sea, might have appeared to be a mounting armada intended for a major military strike. However, only a few U.S. assets are currently in the Gulf, including one U.S. Coast Guard cutter, participating in the international "Leading Edge" exercise designed to interdict the proliferation of nuclear weapons. In and of itself, none of this movement was ever particularly suspicious, which is even more plainly evident now that the scheduled rotations have taken place.
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http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2326293.php
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The Enterprise group was relieved by the Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group, which departed Norfolk, Va., on Oct. 3 and transited the Suez Canal on Oct. 30. The two carriers steamed side-by-side in the Red Sea on Oct. 31.
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It is clear that both the Enterprise and the Eisenhower could have participated in the exercises conducted by USA near Iran. The Eisenhower had taken 28 days to reach the Suez Canal from USA. Likewise the Enterprise is expected to take 4 weeks to reach USA. In the one week of Iranian exercises yet to be finished, both the Enterprise and Eisenhower are within striking distance of Iran. Even though theoretically only one Aircraft Carrier is assigned to the Gulf, both could be activated if necessary.

We would love to believe that the possibility of war between USA and Iran has receded. Could we? Could we heave a sigh of relief?
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anon
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 07:47 am:   

Andnomas

Your raised a very good point regarding the concept of Inshallah fatalism. It is at the core of the issue of wether or not the Iraqis will be able to salvage the situation or continue down the path towards civil war.

When you put everything into the hands of God you surrender your freedom of action. This debate has raged within Christianity over the question of free will.

In Christianity we call upon God to give us guidence and the strength to face the forces of darkness and evil that plauge this world rather than blindly accepting it as the will of God. In doing so we have built a technological society that is unmatched in history.

Perhaps one day the Children of Islam will understand that demons are fought using tools other than bombs and weapons and that their own demons lay within themselves and that they are not the people of the west or rest of the world society.

As Naive has said in her posting we have our own demons within our society that we know well and have the tools to fight them at the ballot box, in the courts and in the court of public opinion.

One hopes one day that the Children of Islam will reach the point in their development where they understand this.

As by way as an aside, I offer the following as a discussion of traditional demons that we war against.

Today with science in the west in ascendence many of our old beliefs are under attack. The concept of God, Angels and Demons has been relegated to the releam of myth and quirks of nuero-chemestry.

While I am a Christian I and firmly belive in the value of science and medicine, I also believe that there are points where science ends and we move into the realm of faith. In doing so our religon teaches us that we have the capability to face forces that are powerful beyond our understanding and with the power of God bring them to defeat. This concept is much more different then the fatalistic concept expressed by the concept of inshallah fatalism.

At the root of each religon are some fundamental beliefs that shapes and guides how each society acts.

For me I beleive that sometimes God takes a hand to aid his people like a wise perent does. He does not punish his children but gives them the strength to overcome what they are faced with. Much like the drug dealers and the like try and hook our kids on drugs and all the parents can do is fight them using the law and words to guide the children away from drugs do I think god acts to aid us in the fight against demons who tempt men to do their bidding.

In the modern era we call drugs, alcohol and other things demons that plague us. For me I see them as signs and tools of men that have surrendered themselves to forces of darkness for temporal power and wealth.

Members of my family are actively involved in the Chruches and hold degrees in Psychology, medicine and science. In a handful of cases very, very, very few cases, they have seen things that go beyound science. In one case it took the form of an exercism of a woman that worshiped satan, and sold her soul to him. During the exercism she spoke in tounges, knew things of each exercist that went beyond what a human could reasonably know. That woman after the exercism had no knowledge of what transpired during it and has gone on to live a normal happy life. In another case a women striken with cerebal palsy, began to speak in ancient aramaic in a nursing home. The staff did not know what to do. In the end when the doctors knew they had reached a point that reason and science ended they called a member of my family who was a deacon in a church to come. Under supervison of the doctors he performed an ancient ritual of blessing and the woman woke from the state and has gone on to live realtively normally since. What was said in aramaic is recordered and archived within my family member's church and accepted as an act of god. What she said after the event is that she felt much closer to god and asked for religous conseling.

In the world of religion, poltics and science we in the west have come to a point where we recognize the need for seperation of church, science and state. In our religion unlike Islam we believe in an empowering god that gives us the strength to overcome forces arrayed against us and accept as a core principle the seperation of church and state. This concept has long served us well and aided our society in becoming the most advanced and wealthiest on the planet.

In my world I firmly believe in seperation of church and state. In society I vote, follow its rules and act accordingly to its norms. In my world of religon my family and I are sometimes called upon to assist with things that transcend science and remain within the confines of the church.

A key difference between Islam and Christianity

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 10:02 am:   

Your raised a very good point regarding the concept of Inshallah fatalism. … When you put everything into the hands of God you surrender your freedom of action.
Ed
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 07:47 am: anon


I say Inshah Allah whenever I refer to a future action irrespective of the nature of the future action. What is the purpose of ‘Inshah Allah?’ Is it an excuse to inaction or the motivation for the utmost we could do? I believe it is the motivation to do our utmost; to strive as much as possible.

Muslims have their congregational prayers on Friday afternoon. Some Imams advise their congregation to offer the prayer thinking that this could be their last prayer. Death and Life are completely in the hands of God. No one knows when death would reach him. So do the utmost if you are doing a good deed and desist from doing an evil act if the Satan persuades you to an evil act.

When I use ‘Inshah Allah’ it mainly points to the possibility that I might not be alive at the future time referred to. It in no way means I leave the work to God. I do understand that whatever be my effort a thing would not materialize if it is not sanctioned by God. Still effort we must make. If something good that we seek – like avoiding the future confrontation between Iran and USA – does not materialize we accept that in God’s infinite wisdom this evil that has occurred has some larger good and start seeking that larger good.

‘Inshah Allah’ does not permit laziness; it calls for the best in us every time.
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Ivan
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 10:11 am:   


quote:

They monitor us, but cut spending to schools, keeping our nation's youth and underpriviledged in a perpetual state of ignorance and economic deprivation. We are made to be ignorant consumers who seek and measure happiness through material gain. --Naive



'Only 50 years left' for sea fish
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6108414.stm

We may be facing the collapse of our oceanic eco-system due to over fishing to feed our growing appetite for protein, which we need to feed the growing population of the planet. This is more elemental than our rapacious appetite for material goods, much of which is wasteful. How many pairs of shoes does any human being need, or blouses and pants, or cars and televisions? Why do we waste trees on packaging? Where does it stop before we turn or world into a wasteland of landfills, or so pollute our waters and oceans that they become vast dead zones? For all our scientific and philosophical knowledge, we have not learned to co-exist with our natural world. Our material greed, which shows as mindless consumerism, is at odds with a more mindful and serene existence where all life of the planet is considered an ally rather than exploitable.

Of course, when human conditions become dire enough, we like overcrowded rats in the laboratory fight against each other. War is a natural condition of overcrowding. But then, if this is true, why are highly populated countries like Japan not at civil war? Is it their superior educational system? Or is it their culture of politeness raised to an art that affords them to live without warring on each other? Is it their economic success since the last world war? Other crowded states such as Singapore, or Taiwan, or parts of Europe, the northeastern part of the United States, and things work. So overcrowding in itself may not be the problem as much as how crowded human beings learn to live together, mindful of each other. If our educational system incorporates in itself higher values of being, of living in agreement with one another, with a serenity with the natural world, with a love for living things and eco-systems that are revered rather than exploited, then there is hope. Our American democratic government, as Ed points out, is subject to change, each time we go to the voting booths. So in the end, it is not government per se that is the fault here, but the people themselves who have to be educated and raised up. Why is this not happening? Perhaps it is because war is such a focus, where preparedness for conflict and defense is valued more than harmony in all aspects of life, both material and spiritual. If we apply reason to that end, then perhaps there is hope to reverse the damage done, not only in nature but to our ways of life. We must be mindful that everything we do on the planet is interrelated.

However, peace comes at a price, and to have no war we must have no enemies. And to have no enemies we must have the same freedoms universally, freedoms from coercions in our mind and physical beings, in order to give us room to grow beyond our war mindset. Therein lies the problem. How do we get from here to there? Belief in God had been with us from time primordial, but peace had remained illusive. So there is still something missing in our equation for peace. Reason still fails us. But why? The dying fish may be only the canary in the mine pit, with worse yet to come, alas. We may have mindlessly overmined our world. Is it not time we wake up? Otherwise, nature will correct, but the lessons learned from ignorance are hard.

Ivan
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 11:13 am:   

We may be facing the collapse of our oceanic eco-system due to over fishing to feed our growing appetite for protein, which we need to feed the growing population of the planet.
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 10:11 am: Ivan


Fish might vanish in 50 years. Is it because of over fishing? For analogy does the population in advanced countries decline due to the increased murders? It declines because the enlightened couples often stop with just one child whereas we need two surviving children even to stabilize the population.

I suspect the real reason for reduction in fish population is similar. It is not over fishing, it is reduced birth rate of fish.

http://www.allthingsarctic.com/environment/ozone_uv.aspx
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Higher UV levels can jeopardize the survival of fish larvae resulting dramatic impacts for the fishing industry. (Quoted from the bottom right side bar.)
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The reduction of atmospheric ozone is an accident due to ignorance of mankind. We invented the CFCs and used them merrily until we were surprised by the ozone hole. Interestingly, we might yet survive and the fish might regenerate. From
http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/1z2.html
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CFCs were banned globally by the Montreal Protocol on substances that deplete the Ozone layer-1987 (and further amendments). As they have such long atmospheric lifetimes (the longest lived have lifetimes of the order of 100 years) it will take around another 50 years until all the CFC's released so far have been destroyed in the stratosphere and ozone concentrations stabilise.
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So it is my understanding that we might still survive. May I suggest we build artificial ponds covered to reduce the sun light and nurture the larvae until they become large enough to survive the natural UV and release them to the ocean? Then we might have more protein than our need for mankind.
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Ivan
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 06:52 pm:   


quote:

So it is my understanding that we might still survive. May I suggest we build artificial ponds covered to reduce the sun light and nurture the larvae until they become large enough to survive the natural UV and release them to the ocean? Then we might have more protein than our need for mankind. --Mohideen



Science demands we offer proof. Perhaps your idea of saving fish in stock ponds can work, or perhaps it will not. Fish farming has proven handicapped, in that the fish are less healthy than those in the wild, less nutritious, and often infested with parasites because they are so crowded together. If we are to save humanity with fish, it is better to let them live in the open oceans, or thrive in streams and rivers, then trying to force feed them in stock ponds. The point of my above is that we all living things of the planet are interdependent, and interrelated, and if we kill off one group of species, others will die. Eventually, it becomes our turn. The scientific proof of our failures is when living species die off en masse.

We cannot war on the natural world without damaging ourselves. That was the point.

Ivan
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anon
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 11:22 pm:   

Ivan,

This issue is one that must be dealt with one way or another if we are to be able to sustain life on this planet.

It may be that the issue will require enforcement of global fishing regulations. One hopes that reason and science will prevail in this case. It also brings to mind a saying from the bible,

"Do not worry then, saying, "What will we eat?" or "What will we drink?" or "What will we wear for clothing?" For the Gentiles eagerly seek all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things.

But seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you."

One hopes that we can learn from this even in our modern era when trying to resolve the issues associated with this problem.

Ed
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Naive
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 01:37 pm:   

You are right Ivan. I should rephrase:

Our government is not the cause of the many problems we face as a society, but rather corrupt men within our government. And this speaks to the whole problem of the discussion above.

Is it possible to affect large scale social change, with so many different value systems? You brought up the example of the Japanese. Similar ethical viewpoints throughout the populous. On the otherhand, we who expouse capitalism have gain as our common viewpoint. Once indeed religion served to imprint morals, ethics. In Asian countries, the philosophy was one of balance, moderation, and a sense that material gain is destructive toward the path of enlightenment. How prophetic now were the words of the ancients who developed those spiritual philosophies.

We have had an industrial and technological revolution. I believe now it is time for the spiritual revolution. Or better yet we must ask: What will carry our species into the most final of frontiers (development of habitats in space)? Will it be our destruction of the planet due to greed and desire, or will we learn to coexist in harmony on a worldwide scale and develop technologies beneficial to the common goal of furthering human existence?

I fear as long as we have corrupt men in the highest of our governmental positions, representing their own selfish interests, the answer is the very bleak and dismal one!

Naive

P.S.

Ed. I am a man. I chose the name Naive because I feel humans have only scratched the surface of the knowledge we can know. I also feel it is arrogance to speak as if the answers one has are the final word on the truth. Thus Naive - to represent my current understanding of the world and its complexities!
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anon
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   

My appologies Naive and I respect your humility.

Ed
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Naive
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 02:12 pm:   

No apologies needed. You are a good man Ed!
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 08:42 pm:   

Will it be our destruction of the planet due to greed and desire, or will we learn to coexist in harmony on a worldwide scale and develop technologies beneficial to the common goal of furthering human existence?
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 01:37 pm: Naive


The only hope for survival in space habitats depends on our learning to treat all life on earth as important and nurture all life. If we fail to evolve as guardians of all life, we simply vanish; there would be no space habitat.
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 08:54 pm:   

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20706448-31477,00.html
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ONE of the most respected journals covering the US military has called for Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to be sacked, adding to the chorus urging President George W. Bush to oust the Iraq war architect.

... "The time has come, Mr President, to face the hard bruising truth," said an editorial appearing in the November 13 issues of the weekly Military Times group of newspapers, which include the Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times and Marine Corps Times.
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November 13 is six days after the coming election. What is the point of writing an editorial to be printed and released on November 13 but of releasing it to the media just two days before the election?
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Ivan
Posted on Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 11:50 pm:   


quote:

November 13 is six days after the coming election. What is the point of writing an editorial to be printed and released on November 13 but of releasing it to the media just two days before the election?



My impressions, Mohideen, is that this election has had few gentlemenly niceties, to put it mildly. The article referenced, a foreign journal, has the leisure of 20/20 hindsight. The war in Iraq was a pretty much 'fait accomplit' when Baghdad fell. It was the rest of it, the nation building part, or transplanting Jeffersonian democracy onto Iraqis who were ill prepared to handle it, that was the tragedy. If the Iraqis cannot take the matter of secterian violence, the incredible numbers of murder and mutilations of their own people, into hand by the government, then the whole affair fails. Now it is up to the Iraqis, American election or not. I reserve judgment on Mr. Rumsfeld until I can see what the Iraqis accomplish, or fail to accomplish. Ball's now in their court.

Ivan
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 05:32 am:   

For Mohideen Ibramsha,

I have attached a link for your review.

While I do not believe it you may find it and its implications of interest.

http://www.rense.com/general44/nazi.htm

For the last two thousand years the Christian elite has married among its self and in doing so has perpetuated its control of political power through control of the country's elected political powerbase. That is changing slowely as diversity enters our government. When we look at Bush and the rest of great political families we see this.

However, limiting genetic input leads to a number of inherited diseases. But sometimes certain traits carry over.

Whether of not there is a conspiracy of men running the world and influencing events I leave to other forums.

As to November 13. Look to the link I posted above. Sometimes elements of the truth are buried in lies. But in most cases all you find is lies.

Friendly Ghost
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 02:48 pm:   

While I do not believe it you may find it and its implications of interest.
Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 05:32 am: Friendly Ghost


I know that before the sun rises from the west, the devil would appear on the earth. I do not know about the groups mentioned in the link. I do not desire to put my energies to identifying the real source as I cannot reason with the devil.
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 11:30 am:   

What are the implications of the following?

http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&TMID=111&FID=283& PID=449&IID=450
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The kidnapping of the soldiers enabled Israel to preempt before the Iranians had completed their buildup. The Iranians did not want a full-scale war yet. They wanted to put pressure on Israel, but Hizballah made a mistake in its assessment of Israel's response. The end result was a "premature" war that has put the Iranian terrorist threat on the global agenda of public diplomacy, alerting the West before Iran was completely ready.

… We need to recognize that the media is a tool and that it can serve as a weapons system.

… From now on it's "dirty wars," and that means that the role of public diplomacy is much greater. There are only two basic scenarios. Either you fight in densely populated areas on enemy territory, where the enemy is, or the enemy fights on yours. Israel is not a country that can absorb casualties.

… The threat Israel faces is not just Hizballah, it's Iran, and we should alert the rest of the world to that, as we alerted the world to the Iranian nuclear program. Israel is on the front line of Iran's war against the West.

… The globalization of terror under the auspices of Iran is a much more formidable and more clear and present danger than the Iranian nuclear threat. The minute the Iranians get nuclear weapons, they may not immediately send them against Israel on their missiles. But this will give them the kind of protection and deterrence to use the methods that they're using now in Lebanon. For instance, if there was an Iranian terrorist coup in Egypt, the world would have to weigh any reaction differently if Iran had nuclear weapons.
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It is important to note that the above article that was published in August 2006 appears on November 5, 2006 as shown below:
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Home » Israeli Security » The Critical Importance of Israeli ...
Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, Israel - Nov 5, 2006
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Why bring a three month old article as news now? It looks like the real motive for blocking Iran’s nuclear ambitions is not security but the freedom to act against Iran without any constraints. Am I right?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   

http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/9149&t5
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Maybe there are reports out there of these screw-ups benefiting Democratic candidates at the expense of their Republican opponents, but I just don’t come across them. From TPM Café: “My wife just came home from voting here in Webster Groves MO. She used the electronic touch-screen voting system. . . She touched Claire McCaskill's picture and the machine recorded a vote for Jim Talent. She then called one of the people running the polling center who helped her correct the problem. My wife then had to call the person over another time after it recorded her vote a Republican again.
(http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2006/nov/07/mo_sen_machi ne_records_dem_vote_for_gop)
In her frustration she asked the person who was responsible for the design of this system. The polling person leaned in very close to my wife and whispered, 'We're f----d.' "
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How is that?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20061107/cm_usatoday/diceymachinesshadytacticsa ndablastfromthepast
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In early voting in Florida - yes, Florida - recently, electronic voting machines repeatedly tried to cast votes for candidates other than the one the voter chose. The Miami Herald quoted an elections official saying it wasn't uncommon for heavily used machines to "slip out of sync," requiring poll workers to shut them down or go through a 15-step process to recalibrate them.
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So you see you were disenfranchised by technology! How about this from the same web page?
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From overly restrictive voter ID requirements to aggressive efforts to challenge the eligibility of certain voters, partisan political operatives are devising new ways to try to keep people away from the polls, under the guise of policing vote fraud. Virtually all of the examples suggest Republican efforts to suppress voting by poor, less educated people who tend to vote for Democrats.
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Finally the clincher from ex-President Jimmy Carter:
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While the USA girds for problems today, Nicaragua, a tiny Central American nation with a troubled electoral history, conducted a presidential election Sunday that former president Jimmy Carter, one of the observers, called "a much more careful and meticulous process and much more uniform throughout the country than anything we've ever seen in the United States."
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Looks like we have to simply wait with bated breath!
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Ivan
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 07:56 pm:   


quote:

Why bring a three month old article as news now? It looks like the real motive for blocking Iran’s nuclear ambitions is not security but the freedom to act against Iran without any constraints. Am I right? --Mohideen



It appears from the article referenced above, The Critical Importance of Israeli Public Diplomacy..., that Iran had a Hizbollah agenda right from the start, back in 2000 when Israel pulled out of Lebanon. Or from the article:
"From the minute Israel left Lebanon in May 2000, Iran began to implement its initial plan for a takeover of Lebanon by Hizballah. First, it got into the political system and then from within it is trying to take over. Israel struck over two thousand Hizballah targets, and not only in south Lebanon. Hizballah is fully deployed in south Lebanon, Beirut, the Bekaa Valley, and on the border with Syria. By looking at the targets that Israel struck, one can see the extent of the Hizballah takeover."
The way Hiszbollah was able to play it to the world press and TV was expertly, and the media bought it. Remember some of those war scenes staged, and exposed as frauds? The nuclear ambitions of Iran is well covered up with media coverage, to once again make them look the victim, even if they are the aggressor, same as Hizbollah did to Israel. Interesting times we're in! How to fight a war without uniforms but all cameras blazing, while hiding behind civilian human shieds. This is truly something new, and creative, if not heartless. Can it win? Eventually, deceit is uncovered, and truth wins out.

Ivan
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Ivan
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 09:28 pm:   

RE 2006 mid-term elections, as referenced by Mohideen:

quote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20061107/cm_usatoday/diceymachinesshadytacticsa ndablastfromthepast
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In early voting in Florida - yes, Florida - recently, electronic voting machines repeatedly tried to cast votes for candidates other than the one the voter chose. The Miami Herald quoted an elections official saying it wasn't uncommon for heavily used machines to "slip out of sync," requiring poll workers to shut them down or go through a 15-step process to recalibrate them.
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It seems there were some computer glitches early in the day, most likely human error by ill prepared volunteers at polling stations, but that got fixed within the first hour at most places. One place in California ran out of English speaking paper ballots, so some people left, since they were not well enough versed in Spanish or Vietnamese. Human error again?

Mostly I turn a blind eye to unfounded conspiracy theories. If there were failures, usually they are fixed, or else somebody will be held accountable for them. By and large millions of people are able to vote without too many problems, except maybe standing in line. Absentee voting, or early voting, is becoming more popular, so can take some of the pressure off long lines, for those who know how they will vote early. However, you can't change your mind if last minute information is compelling. As far as electronic voting is concerned, I vote for a printed paper trail, so that results can be compared if contested. Keep the paper around for 30 days, and then discard. No need to look for conspiracies, but if any surface with evidence, then certainly must be examined, and if wrong doing, apply full due process of law to stop it.

Tomorrow, or perhaps even late tonight, we will know how the American people had chosen. Voting is not a war, but a free expression of choice regarding how we are governed. Do I hear a screeching halt to 'gridlock' in Congress?

Ivan
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 04:08 am:   

Tomorrow, or perhaps even late tonight, we will know how the American people had chosen.
Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 09:28 pm: Ivan


1942100%2C00.html,http://www.guardian.co.uk/midterms2006/story/0,,1942100,00.htm l
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President George Bush's job is a lot tougher this morning, after the Democrats won control of the House of Representatives, breaking the conservative monopoly of power in Washington and clearing the way for congressional investigations into the conduct of the Iraq war.
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Now the tense wait starts. Would there be an “Iran war?” Could the “Iraq war” be investigated while we are in the thick of another war?
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Freedom
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 05:16 am:   

Mohideen Ibramsha,

You have seen now what constitutes the strength of the American system. The republicans and president ruled as dictators. Using the power control of the house granted to shape congressional districts to ensure a lock on power and access to wealth to buy power. However, you have now see that the American people have the power to and will exercise their will and take back their government without bombs using the tools our founding fathers gave us, freedom of speach, freedom of religon and freedom of the press.

We used the Internet, cell phones, signals and cutout to pass messages and relay information from sources inside the government to bring down the corrupt Republican Administration. Unlike the terrorists we did it with no bombs, no guns, no killing.

The religous people in the United States that backed me have set a limit, however, they said no to Gay Marriage. In Isreal the fanactics said the same thing but with riots, assualts and stabbings in God's holy city.

We hold marriage is a sacriment of God. Civil unions are the perview of the secualar state and lay outside the house of Christ. We hold the Church door open for gay people but stop at granting them the sacriment of marriage.

As to Iran. I suspect that we will hold the line on it. We have efforts in place working with the students to try and bring about change from within. We are working with the Wife of the late Shaw of Iran through cutouts passing messages back and forth.

In the great game, we do many things. I did what I did to illustrate a point to the intelligence community and that the people of the United States will not tolerate a dictatorship. In doing so I penetrated the White House itself and had a copy of the president's schedule brought to me.

Now is a time for healing.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 07:04 am:   

Why this campaign of misinformation?

http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=5648787&nav=2aKD
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Hamas says America is responsible for an Israeli attack that killed women and children in the Gaza Strip because it offers Israel political, financial and logistical support.

The statement goes on to say that Muslims must "teach the American enemy tough lessons."
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Where did Associated Press get this bit of information about teaching a tough lesson to the American enemy?

What did the Palestine Prime Minister say?
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/C0AE9DA1-384B-48AB-BB5B-2DCEBDC9D6E6.htm
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"I urge the Arab League to call on presidents and leaders to break the blockade imposed on the Palestinian people and not to continue complying with the American will and the American decision, which has given Israel the green light and which considers killing the children, women and elderly people in Beit Hanoun and Jenin as self-defence."
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Where did the Associated Press pick up the information from the military wing? What is the source?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 07:17 am:   

As to Iran. I suspect that we will hold the line on it. We have efforts in place working with the students to try and bring about change from within. We are working with the Wife of the late Shaw of Iran through cutouts passing messages back and forth.
Ed
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 05:16 am: Freedom


I sincerely wish success for your efforts. I fully understand the power of students. In 1965 the Union Government in India imposed Hindi as a common language against the wishes of the South Indian population. I was in second year of the five year BS in Electrical Engineering. The students took a procession against the imposition. Some ruffians belonging to the then ruling party Congress attacked the student procession and caused injury to one student on his thigh. The student body continued the agitation. The colleges were closed and reopened in stages to control the students. The next election saw the Congress Party lose power in Tamilnadu state. That party is yet to regain power there.

I understand the power of students. My worry is whether that power would have the time to exercise. What happens if bombing starts?

All that I could say at this point in time is that I wish you well.
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For Peace and Freedom
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 03:55 pm:   

Mohideen Imramsha,

I thank you for your words. Already the policy makers are talking of shifting to a policy of engagement with Iran and Syria with regards to bringing about a reduction of violence in Iraq.

For me, what the future holds I do not know. As to the current selectee for the post of Secretary of Defence, he has good credentials and is very pragmatic and is not an ideolog.

Communication between civilized societes occures at many levels. When I travel I speak to the Muslim people I do so as a decendent of the founders of the United States, 24 year veteran of the intelligence services, and decendent from one of the great families of Christianity as does my wife.

I and my wife have much in common with the Wife of the late Shaw of Iran. In addition we have established links to the people of Islam and to various Universities and their student populations.

What I did with the support of my family and other members of the descendents of the founders of the United States, avrious moderate Churches and via the internet is bring about the creation of a network of decentralized agents.

When I travel to the Middle East in the spring. I and my wife will bring our networks into contact with that of the Wife of the Late Shaw, The Iranians, the Iranian students and exchange views on subjects and have a dialog. I do this with the intent of demonstrating to the Iranians that it is possible to bring down a government with enourmous resources, pervasive security services with no loss of blood. Via the internet, and at university I have been teaching the students those tactics, techniques and procedures of revolution.

As I sit here networks of contacts are already exchanging data.

On the great game board, we have the wife of the late Shaw of Iran, her contacts, the exile population of Iran with its students, satellight links to homes in Iran, Internet connections, the former president of Iran who was a reformer, and his network. We also have the minority population of Iran, to include Zorastrians, whose religion I have also studied and my friends in Islamic nations and their networks of contacts.

From those networks, information will pass and be exchanged. A dialog will be conducted and events set into motion. This has already started.

The end result of this dialog and exchange between distributed networks is to bring about conditions for change in Iran.

One hopes the Iranian students have paid attention to this dialog and what I have been able to do under surveillence by the most sophisticated ssurviellence systems in the world using cut outs, cell phones, the internet and dead drops to bring down a government.

My Best

Ed
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 06:22 pm:   

Some experts on social affairs of the country are of the belief that a major movement in Iranian society at large is on the verge of taking place and because of the lack of social organization, they cannot be seen on a continuous basis. They however become apparent more during elections, special ceremonies or anniversaries. They believe that a large scale "Social Movement" is on the verge of happening and that parts of such major movement show themselves through universities.

Within Iranian society lays a burgening social movement. The Empress Farah sees this and has written

"Amidst renewed sufferings, our people continue the long and arduous struggle for freedom, and my earnest wish is that they will succeed in bringing forth a democratic Iran based upon her rich heritage, culture and tradition. To them, and to all my compatriots, I dedicate this site."

http://www.farahpahlavi.org/

When I travel to the Middle East come the spring, I and my wife will bring with us the network of contacts and founding families that banded together to bring down the Republican Government of the United States, in full view of the world.

To the people of Iran, learn from this. To stand in the open and defy the rulers of Iran at this time is foolish. But you have strength, and the time will come when you will be called upon to demonstrate that strength but the time is not yet. Communication, construction of networks and gathering of information is currently the task at hand. In your struggle for freedom you have many friends.

In the great game, I have made the opening move and demonstrated what is possible. The rest is up to you.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 09:42 pm:   

A Brillient Mind

With nothing but university computers linked to gravity sensors, planetary alignments, geological websites and historical databases he predicted earthquakes.

With primative tools he explored the Quadratrix of Hippias and charted new ground in geometry.

He recovered the Soviet Central Group of Forces and Czechoslovakian War Plans and help build the nuclear defense plan for NATO.

He predicted storm damage from Katrina and casualty estimates with chilling accuracy.

All of this despite brain, spinal cord, C-Spine and peripheral nerve damage. Poisoning, and multiple attempts to kill him.

He was trained in all weapons of war including nuclear weapons and he scored expert with rifle, pistol and machine gun.

He ran an agent network throughout Czechoslovakia during the cold war and then when thrown broken onto the street by the President, Cheney and Rumsfeld, he built a network using home, library and university computers, family, and friends, along with code speak and signal systems that penetrated the White House, obtained Scooter Libbies indightment, and penetrated CIA Langly's black prison system. After doing so he helped with the assistance of other members of the founding families to bring down the Republican Government.

Now he turns his attention to Iran.

Now we know what helped win the Cold War and what was locked up in the black world of spies and covert programs.

If I was the federal government I think I would find a way to make peace with him. I would rather have him working for the federal government than coordinating the overthrough of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Friendly Ghost
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 10:02 pm:   

Thank you Ghost. I think I spotted you today.

I would like to work again as an analyst and would entertain offers from the federal government.

Until such offers are made, I will continue doing what I am doing and will coordiante my operations with that of the Empress of Iran.

As to the federal government, I still remember the EMG needles and electricity you ran through my tounge, facial nerves and each and every other nerve in my body. I still recall each and every twist of the needle as my nervous system was probed with electricity. I also recall the seven attempts to penetrate my spine to withdraw spinal fluid and the rupture of the cord and headache I had when the fluid drained from around my brain. I also remember the failing of my body from poison in Mexico, the choking and difficulty breathing I had and then the light I passed through, barely returning and waking from it when I rolled out of the bed onto the floor.

I said long ago I would get the men and women that put me out on the street. To do it I had to bring down the government. Be thankful I found Christ and God and have long ago layed down my weapons and be thankful that I am a decendent of the founding families of this nation. As to what I can do. Read the Friendly Ghosts posts.

Come the spring I will be in the Persian Gulf helping build a network inside Iran.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 11:07 pm:   

I would like to work again as an analyst and would entertain offers from the federal government.

Until such offers are made, I will continue doing what I am doing and will coordiante my operations with that of the Empress of Iran.
Ed
Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 10:02 pm: Peace and Freedom


Dear Ed,
You know what is best for you. You should help the nation. I hope you do not sign-off all your time for the government. If possible maintain flexibility so that your hands are not tied; retain the freedom to intervene peacefully to bring about change. Is there a possibility of your becoming a “consultant – analyst” so that you get a specific commitment as a consultant without the hours of activity getting specified by someone else. Such freedom to help the Federal Government would allow you to help mankind enslaved in other regions outside the US.

I hope God Almighty gives you enough wealth so that you do not need to work to get bread on the table.

Best wishes again.
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 05:27 am:   

Is the war on Iran rescheduled?

http://www.countercurrents.org/iran-akleh091106.htm
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The present American administration is an extremist theocratic apocalyptic neoconservative Christian-Zionist war mongering law-breaking power hungry administration with a bragging “war president” adopting the doctrines of “pre-emptive” strikes and perpetual war against “global terror”. This war will take place far away from the American home-land, and will generate large profits for the American military corporations. The war against Iran will engulf the whole Middle East and may overflow to its neighboring countries. Controlling Iran is a very important strategic move to assure American global hegemony. This war is scheduled to start between February and April of 2007, and it seems that there is nothing to stop it.
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Does the writer have any links to the powers that are? Or is he speculating? Going by the start of the Iraq war in 2003, a period between February and April possibly facilitates a ground invasion. So the above dates could as well be educated guesses by the author.
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 06:16 am:   

Mohideen Ibramsha,

Thank you for the kind words. As to income, I have recovered with the aid of Clinton contacts and am now back in the upper level of American Society with regards to income and assets.

I worked 60 hours a week, and did all of the the things I did even while damaged for a number of purposes. The first is to provide hope to the brain damaged to show recovery is possible. The second is to embarass the Bush adminstration on the street and focus attention on myself from the scientific community with regards to nuero-regeneration. From that I used my demonstrated capabilities to build a network of contacts on the street, in the scientific community, and in the Churches. I coupled that to my families contacts with the founding families and in government to bring help bring about the downfall of the Republican Government.

I also did so under survellience on Camera on the streets to prove it could be done.

It is a distributed network like Al Qeada's in which I serve as a tactical and strategic planner, with policy and other functions being distributed. Contact between members is via the media and cutouts. We also use dead drops and the Churches to link us with coded messages distributed in Sermons.

My wife's IQ is 140, mine despite damage is 126. My daughters IQ is 145. My wife and daughter speak four languages each. The average IQ for my family is 135. We have turned all of that capability to building and running a network that brought down the Republican Government using cell phones, bibles, code speak and Churches.

When I go to the Middle East I go as senior representative of the undergound network that helped bring down the Government of the Rupublicans. My wife through female contacts has opened a dialog with the Empress of Iran.

During the American Civil war my Mother's family helped run the underground railway that brought the slaves from the south to freedom in the north. To run that network we used messages coded in quilts in the form of embroidered patterns, signs and symbols on Churches and Houses, Code Speak and Bibles.

That is the capability we brought to bear on the Government of the Republicans. I merged that to my distant relatives capabilites in Europe and the UK that helped bring about the end of Rule in South Africa. We used similiar techniques.

That network is very real. Today we added the Internet to the mix of capabilites.

Come the spring I will teach the Iranian's and Empress the same techniques.

My Best


Ed
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 06:19 am:   

On last thing passed to me by my group in work after the fall of Rumsfeld and the Republicans were the words John Chapture 1.

King James Version. All it took was two words John 1.

Such is the nature of the Network I am in.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 06:44 am:   

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/08/AR2006110801810. html
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Russia has told European envoys it is committed to ensuring Iran does not make nuclear bombs, even though Moscow gutted a draft U.N. resolution on sanctions against Tehran, diplomats said on Wednesday.

…China's U.N. envoy Wang Guangya, whose country supports Russia on Iran, was pessimistic about the progress in the negotiations. Other ambassadors were more upbeat.
"Clearly I think in a number of difficult areas the difference cannot be bridged so I believe there should be more reflections in capitals," he told reporters after Tuesday's meeting.
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History seems to repeat in UN. If US would wait for an UN Security Council resolution authorizing all means, it is possible that there could be a delay of a few months. Could this delay be tolerated by the “End-Timers?”
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 03:04 pm:   

In history we have four examples of men that peacefully brought down governments in full view of the public with little of no technological support aided by a legion of followers.

1. Ghandi did it against all odds. Using passive resistence and logic he brought down the British Raj.

2. His Holiness the Pope helped do it by using religon, and an understanding of politics, when he led the Church in Poland and then the Church of Rome in its conflict with the Soviet Union.

3. Nelson Mandela did it from a cell a South African Cell.

4. And now we have another that helped do it from behind the scenes, using intelligence trade craft and knowledge of Government Secrets to bring down the Republican Administration.

Each of these men were special, highly intelligent and gifted individuals.

Behind each was a religous base that would die or sacrifice their careers for them.

This latest network under the leadership of one intelligent gifted individual is now aligning itself with that of the Empress of Iran and others, with the intent of coordiating actions to bring about change in Iran. In this task it faces the networks established by a nation state raised by another great mind and religous leader, the Ayatollah Khomeini.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayatollah_Ruhollah_Khomeini

In the ensuing conflict of ideas and intelligence the World Wide Web is likely to become a battle ground between there two sides which seek to influence the minds of the Iranians. In this great game the stakes are high. On one side is a Christian that believes in freedom and religious co-existance as an article of faith and a repressive religously intolerant nation state.

As an opening salvo in this war the Christian leader confirmed before the combined intelligence communities of the United States and Isreal the use of advanced weapons supplied by Iran in Lebenon to strike an Isreali Warship, and the state of Iran's nuclear design program using only the Internet and data provided to him by contacts.

Opposing this great mind are the products of the
Ayatollah's teaching.

Interesting to see what comes out of this battle.

Friendly Ghost
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 04:36 pm:   

http://www.derafsh.org/DerafshK/Guide.htm

Thank you Ghost in the struggle to bring freedom to Iran, there are groups already in the fight. To them our network is lending support in terms of technical advise, encouragement, education and analytic work.

A link to one of those groups is posted above.

From college campuses via the Internet we are interacting with groups like this.

For the Iranian's the battle has just started.

Ed
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Ivan
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 06:38 pm:   


quote:

1. Ghandi did it against all odds. Using passive resistence and logic he brought down the British Raj.

2. His Holiness the Pope helped do it by using religon, and an understanding of politics, when he led the Church in Poland and then the Church of Rome in its conflict with the Soviet Union.

3. Nelson Mandela did it from a cell a South African Cell.
--posted by Friendly Ghost



Bear in mind, Friendly, that these victories against all odds were against civilized nations. Can we really put the conservative Islamic forces of Iran in that category? Jihad, or Sharia, stops any criticism, any rebellion of free thought, or any possibility of change. Once Islamic fundamentalists take over, the equation is now changed. No change is possible.

The kids in Iran who desire change are up against a powerful repressive Islamic fundamentalist Council of Guardians who will allow for no discussion on the matter, and repress any opposition severely, just like they did in the good old days of Soviet Communism. Rebel, and you are dealt with severly, imprisoned, beatened and tortured, or killed. There is no comparrison with today's ayatollah dominated Iran and civilized countries. The closest parallel is to that of the Soviet's repressive regime. Until radical Islam fails from within, the way the Soviets failed from within, there really is not hope for the reformers who dream of an 'orange revolution' in Iran. The odds are against them, since the current regime will use all the coercive powers of its fundamentalist religion to stop them from having any freedoms.

God help them.

Ivan
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 08:00 pm:   

For Ivan,

Once before in the history of Christianity a man confronted the forces of dogmatic obedience that burned, tortured and imprisioned those that challanged its power and worldview.

That man was Martin Luther. Using the forces of politics, popular support and desire for change as a shield he nailed to a Church door a document that forever changed Christianity. The Church was powerless to move against him for he was able to wield these forces into both a sword and shield that protected him. To do so he had to master these forces and use the support of the people and the demonstrated and real threat this posed to the entrenched rulers to accomplish his task. Can it be done again? Yes but it would take a unique individual that to do it. Negotiatiions, give and take, acceptance of his message, birth right, and the like would be required.

Once in the city of Basra in Iraq a woman walked the street and spoke of god and satan during the ancient days of Islam. She blanced the forces of culture, religion, power and economics and is said to have held the city in the Palm of her hand. To this day she is revered as a Saint of Islam. Yes it can be done, but the mind to do must be special.

Can it be done? Yes the man that rises in Iraq to Challange the Ayatollah's legacy, must be strong and will not turn the other cheek for that is not the way of the Muslim, but must demonstrate he has the power to bring the Government to its knees, and yet have a soul that respects, life liberty and freedom. Such a man would go down in Islamic history as a Warrior Saint on Par with Saladeen the Great.

Martin Luther was such a man and he ignited a fire that swept across Christendom and forever changed it.

To find and arm such a man is what we seek to do in Iran. A man such as that could shake the entire world of Islam. Can we help such a man? yes backed by the Internet, and the most advanced technology in the world we could provide aid and advise like we did to Yeltsin during the Coup in Russia. But for it to work we must keep our distance and aid from afar.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 08:06 pm:   

Adawiyya al-Quaysiyya of Basra or simply Rabia Al-Basri (717-801 C.E.) was a female Sufi saint.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabia_al-Adawiya

She walked the streets of Basra and held the city in her hand. For this she was made a saint.

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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 08:37 pm:   

Muqtada al-Sadr

http://www.cfr.org/publication/7637/

In recent days a man rose to challange the might of the United States Army in Iraq. He used popular support, a credible use of force, and the forces of religion to fight the United States Army to a stand still and wrest political power from the Shia Leadership.

Such a mind brought the mightest army on the face of the earth to a halt in Iraq.

One other great mind used these same forces to bring the Republican Government down, with no shots being fired. He used leakes, dumps of information in mail boxes and Churches and predictive intelligence, geometry and popular support. Can such things be done? Yes they have been done and contiue to be done.

Ed, Osama and Sadr have shown such things can be done.

For the students of revolution in Iran. You to can raise a man to do such things.

Learn from, Ed, Martin Luther, Osama and Sadr...the list is long, the price is high, but freedom is worth the price.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther

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Ivan
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 09:41 pm:   

POWERFUL CALL TO REASON IN IRAN

FLAG OF FREEDOM ORGANIZATION OF IRAN GUIDE TO POLITICAL ACTION these points are made (thanks to Ed's link above):
1-    Invidiously compare present conditions in Iran with the period before the revolution and with the progress made in neigbouring countries and others similar to Iran.

2-    Criticize the behavior of thr regime’s and expose their lies, power rivalries, deceptive tactics, incompetence, corruption, and human rights violations with a view to discrediting them in the eyes of the people.

3-    Keep up with local, national and international news and developments and draw conclusions detrimental to the regime particularly in regard to terrorist activities inside and outside of Iran.

4-    Try to make us of the Internet System and other electronic means of conveyance of information regarding the deteriorating social, economic, political and civil conditions in Iran.

5-    Aquaint the people with the democratic liberation movements throughout the world so that they will become more inspired and resolute in their fight for democracy .

6-    Make the people more cncious of their power and more confident of their final victory. Emphasize the regime’s basic weaknesses and contradictions. Boosting the people’s morale must be viewed as a duty by every Iranian opposed to the regime. They must combat the erroneous perceptions by some outside of Iran that Iranians are weak and prone to tyranny, that they are fatalistic, and by those who contend that the nation’s destiny is in the hands of foreign powers and that the   “ Islamic Republic “ can hold on to power indefinitely by resorting to force and oppression.

These are powerful points of reason against tyranny. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said "I swear upon the altar of God to be the eternal enemy of all tyranny over the mind of man." Man, or woman, who fights for Liberty, God speed.

Ivan
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Anon Anon
Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 10:58 pm:   

Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 07:58 pm:

Hardly a rebellion ANON ANON.....

It is the perogative of power to crush those that oppose its use.

However, in our system we are protected and charged by law and custom to reveal illegal abuses of power.....

To that end we descendents of the founding fathers have pledged an oath binding on us to expose the corruption that lays in this administration; its criminal lack of action in matters of international policy and at home; as well as those within it that threaten to violate the separation of powers. WE HAVE NO ISSUE with congress approving tribunals or warrentless wiretaps so long as they act as a deliberative body and their action is found legal by the courts....

That is the system we have pledged to fight for....to do so we will use every tool of the media and court system to do so.....we reject violence and use of force...we will let the truth speak for us and let the people decide...the free expression of the will of people will be honored by us even if counters what we believe....to that and the constitution of the United States we pledge our lives, honor and fortunes.

Amen

My God Bless the United States of America and its soldiers.....

The Alliance of Patriots

This Alliance of Rich and Poor descendents of the patriots of Colonial days, children of the founding fathers, of Franklin, Jefferson, Hancock and the rest banded together to bring down a one party state that disregarded the will of the people. In doing so they fought for our rights, endured loss of power and privilage, suffered ridcule in the streets and the press, yet rallied around one descendent of the Mayflower, armed with Bible in hand and computer keyboard. He stood his ground and preached, predicted and used the resources of universities to push the limits of human knowledge of gravity.

May God Bless the founding fathers and their children, when called they come and in coming they shame us for what they did and we did not

On darkened wings into a cloud of Chinese fallout did one fly...in doing so she gave up her dream to fly on the space shuttle her dream destroyed by cancer.

Such is what founded this nation and such will live in history forever.

Anon Anon
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 12:27 am:   

"Aquaint the people with the democratic liberation movements throughout the world so that they will become more inspired and resolute in their fight for democracy."

In bringing down the American Republican Government the Alliance of Patriots has given new meaning to the words above.

The following is a partial list of some of the Patriots that endured much in the fight against a one party religious state imposed by the Republicans:

Air Force Religious Scandal

Capt. Melinda Morton former nuclear launch officer

Abu Ghraib Scandal

Army Spc. Samuel Provance, intelligence specialist

Surveillence Scandle

US District Judge James Robertson resigned late Monday from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA)

Resignations over Bush's Iraq policy

http://www.rediff.com/us/2003/mar/20iraq15.htm

The list goes on.

All were bound by service to an ideal the Republican Government and the President did not accept or share.

They and thousands of others, heard the words of one decendent of the Mayflower. Together, linked via the internet, Churches and universities they brought down a government, director of CIA and Secretary of Defense.

May God Bless then.

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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 06:45 am:   

http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php

Welcome to Faith Freedom International
Faith Freedom stands for freedom of faith. We are against Hate, not Faith. We revere human rights not human beliefs. We endeavor to be factually correct, not politically correct.

http://regimechangeiniran.com/

Regime Change Iran

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=8924

Regime Change Iran
London, Oct. 13 - A five-day visit to Iran earlier this month by a senior Clinton administration official has fuelled rumours among Iranian political pundits that some Democratic Party leaders may be attempting to establish unofficial channels of communication with Tehran in a bid to outmanoeuvre the Bush administration in its handling of the thorny issue of Iran.

Now we begin to see that Clinton and his supporters have a plan that they have been sticking too as Ed said.

Yes Ed is part of a network, just what the capabilites of that network are have yet to be determined.

Take a genius, nuclear weapons expert and master war game theorist. Tie him to a moderate widespread Tolerant Christian Network of Churches and Groups and we begin to start to unravel the tangled web that brought down the Republicans and is engaged in operations to reach out to the people of Iran that want change.

From outside the system Ed played it against itself using predictive intelligence, religion, knowledge of the workings of the Intelligence Services, misdirection, threats of disclosure, internet postings, dead drops, he proved it could be brought down. He then went on to aid the Clinton Plan supporters in bringing down a government.

Then he unvails the Clinton plan, and the fact it is still in play, even now with contacts being established in Iran.

A masterful bit of work.

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peace and Freedom
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 08:00 am:   

Yes Ghost,

I walked into the plan for the invasion of Iraq. The same team that brought you the invsion of Iraq was going to bring you the Invasion of Syria, in pursuit of WMD. They had plans, they the NEOCONs under Bush, to invade Syria and push to Damscus during the Invasion of Iraq.

Order of Battle files were being built on Syrian force in preparation for attacks, air ground and missile strikes. They saw it as a replay of the Dommino theory of regime change. With the military forces pushing in toppling one government at a time IAW with a grand plan and vision granted to Bush, that he was given a divine mission to bring democracy to the middle east and god help those that opposed him.

Until that is he got bogged down in Iraq. The Neocon's computer models showed they had the technical and military capability to bring down the governments and militaries of Syria, Iraq and then Iran. But then religion raised its head and sectarian strife they never counted on.

They saw religon, the NEOCONs, as a tool they could use, then it bit them back and people rebelled. Yes in England I had a watcher a man with photographic memory and descendent of the Celtic Bards memorizing all the faces and licience plates of the men and women that help bring you the abuse of prisoners, the Iraq War and twisted intelligence to fit the facts.

Then came a mistaken delivery of propane, by a man with a Celtic cross, and a bible. We sent a message back to the NEOCONs, two men can play with religon one from a position of power and one from the streets. George Bush and his team tried to play the politics of religon and ran into something they never expected. Force met force, man met man and the founding families stepped in to defuse the crisis. Politics by its nature is a brutal buisiness. Couple it to religion and great passion is raised.

Now come the pragmatists under James Baker to salvage the situation.

With regards to me during WW II Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto famously fretted, "I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve" In the rebellion against George Bush I pushed my self to my limits, to prove a point.

With links to gravity meters, space probes, magnetic readings, solar data, historical data bases of earthquakes fed to me via several University Computers online in the Student Computer lab I predicted earthquakes using a partially formed understanding of Gravity and its impact on the Earth at the macro level.

It was a battle of will between me and George Bush fought in universities the street, on the Web and via contacts. In the rubble of the aftermath of the battle, the churches that backed me for a security clearance, the men and women that recommended me for hire and promotion, and teams of supports are still here and the republican government is in ruins.

Within the Intelligence and Security apparatus are a core of men and women that used security clearences to purge the Bush Administration of people who did not walk his walk or talk his talk.

Escalation is a bad thing and its effects have far reaching implications.

Ed
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 08:47 am:   

As I sit here about to go out.

I have reviewed the links to Iranian Freedom organizations posted about. In my mind I am correlating the organizations, their contacts, postings, websites and coupling them to what I know of Univeristies, Political Forces in Europe and the United States.

I then take that and link that projection to the information conduits the sites reference back to Iran in terms of messages that are bing passed back and forth, how much information in what form and shape can be sent through those piplines. I am then linking that information to what I know of Iranian culture, their mindset demographics, economy, environmental conditions and other factors to build a picture.

In the rebellion against George Bush, I visited a major Television Netowrk and was taken on a tour of the facility. In it I saw and met a woman that scheduled commercials. Through cutouts we had a dialog. In turn she showe me via broadcasts she could weave a subtle message in how she presented the comercials in terms of sequence, content and timing to send a message to millions of viewers around the globe helping present a view.

That is the nature of the type of asset I used in the war against George Bush to bring down the Republican Government and is the type of asset we need to bring to bear on Iran.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 09:17 am:   

That is the nature of the type of asset I used in the war against George Bush to bring down the Republican Government and is the type of asset we need to bring to bear on Iran.
Ed
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 08:47 am: Peace and Freedom


I believe that war against GB took about 2 years of preparation after the 2004 election. The war – peaceful war – in Iran also requires time. Do we have time on our side?

http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/2006/11/10/ap3162696.html
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The deputy defense minister suggested in comments published Friday that Israel might be forced to launch a military strike against Iran's nuclear program - the clearest statement yet of such a possibility from a high-ranking official.

"I am not advocating an Israeli pre-emptive military action against Iran and I am aware of its possible repercussions," Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh, a former general, told The Jerusalem Post. "I consider it a last resort. But even the last resort is sometimes the only resort."
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Could we ignore the Deputy Defense Minister of Israel?
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Ivan
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 09:53 am:   

Is the church 'at war' with Turkey?

http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=lead&lang=en&length=long&idelem ent=4620&backpage=

TURKEY: ATTACKERS FIREBOMB PROTESTANT CHURCH
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 01:31 pm:   

Ivan,

This issue in Turkey is religous tolerance and freedom.

By an large Turkey is a progressive, fairly secular Islamic State and has laws on the books to protect religous minorites.

The fair enforcement of these laws is the issue not whether or not the Church is at War with Turkey.

In a change of subject I am at present focusing my effort on analyzing Iran and the data regarding it to develop a true picture of it.

From that I will begin to estimate pressure points that can be exploited within the Society and Country to undermine the Regime from within.

Based on my survey of Iranian Exile Oposition Groups and the number of Universities with students with ties to Iran. We have number of conduits to feed information and data back and forth regarding the state of the opposition in Iran at the grass roots level.

This coupled to the Internet and advise from the world's universities and their databases provide the exile group with sufficient information to start the planning and assessment process to bring about change from within.

In doing so they will come up against the organs of state security in Iran. To beat them they have to be better than they are at the game of revolution.

What I have tried to do is teach them how to play this game. The rest is up to them.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 01:45 pm:   

"May God Bless the founding fathers and their children, when called they come and in coming they shame us for what they did and we did not."

In their wrath they are terrible to behold.

Backed into a corner with nothing but access to the Internet and University computers he looked upon the world, solar system and forces of creation.

What did he see in the great pattern?

That is a mystery that will echo down the ages.

Friendly Ghost
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 03:31 pm:   

http://www.upi.com/InternationalIntelligence/view.php?StoryID=20061110-085155-22 02r
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A senior U.S. official this week told Israeli reporters he did not believe Israel would attack Iran that has some 200 nuclear sites. It is difficult to believe that all of them can be destroyed in one attack and the worse thing would be if Israel tries and fails, he said according to Ha'aretz.

Sneh seemed to contradict that prediction. He said he did not believe international sanctions would block Iran and added: "I am not advocating an Israeli pre-emptive military action against Iran, and I am aware of all of its possible repercussions... I consider it a last resort. But even the last resort is sometimes the only resort."
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200 sites???
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Ivan
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 06:46 pm:   

Mohideen, if this comes to pass, it will be a dark day for the world.
"A senior Israeli official said this week he was sure Iran's long-term aim is to destroy Israel and possibly control Mecca in Saudi Arabia.

Israelis generally think the Iranian threat is an existential one and Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh told The Jerusalem Post that the threat itself would make many Israelis leave the country.

"Most Israelis would prefer not to live here; most Jews would prefer not to come here with their families; and Israelis who can live abroad will. People are not enthusiastic about being scorched," Sneh said.

Israel is a small country and much of its population is concentrated near Tel Aviv. Nevertheless, the Mosad spy agency's former director, Ephraim Halevy, Sunday said at the Hebrew University Israel cannot be destroyed "for very many reasons...and (I am not) talking of one specific thing but about a wide variety of things.""
-- from your link in post above.

Ivan
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terror fate
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 09:11 pm:   

Terror-fate? Big pooof bie-bie,

The palestine arabs are stoopid to hate joos. If they understood anything, they would see joos are their human shields, without those shields, arabs would been nuked long ago. Terror is their own, monstroosly biggest enemy to themselves. If Iran takes nuke bomb, this time poor joos may not be deterrent enuf. Palestine goes bie-bie, all stoopid Arabia does big pooof, if not peace now.

Pooof! big big pooof big mistake, stoopids. Love your joos or go bie-b ie.
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Le Chef
Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 10:44 pm:   

FATE, NO 'JOOS', NO MORE ARABS?

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Okay class, pay attention.

Be good children and learn from your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfathers, great great they were until one day... Poooof!

Find Peace children, or the ugly crooked finger of fate will become your karma, and pooof!


Le salaamly wise Chef
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peac and Freedom
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 08:17 am:   

I have begun to pull together a view of the opposition social movement in Iran.

From data I am colating the following is starting to become clear.

This movement has hopes and dreams, a vision of society it wishes to bring about so those hopes and dreams can be achieved.

Governments rule by consent of the people. This is achieved by either a social contract or by fear of the consequences of failure to comply in a dictitorial regime. When the consequences of compliance become greater than the consequences of non-compliance in a repressive regime then change happens.

Recently the people of Iran flocked to a bakery upon hearing a rumor that the shops were closing because the government sent the flour to Lebenon to further the aims of the revolution. The people were angry but had no choice but to comply. They saw it as another example of the government of Iran pursuing an ideological struggle at their expense.

The recent president of Iran has purged the government and key organs of state govenment of people who did not support his ideological views. Competant, technological people were thrown out of work. This breeds anger to the government among them, but must not be displayed because of the nature of the system they are in.

From these data points we begin to get view of the frustration that is mounting in the underground social movement in Iran and Iranian society as a whole.

Through the right application of intelligence, support, commuication and other means it is possible to build upon these frustrations to begin bring about the conditions neccessary to induce change in the Iranian system.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 08:42 am:   

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
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The mortar attack was at least the second reported in recent weeks against the U.S. office in Hillah, which oversees government and diplomatic interests in the central Euphrates region, about 60 miles south of Baghdad.

Nine of the 10 mortar bombs fired landed inside the complex, police Capt. Muthanna Khalid Ali said.
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How could Capt. Muthanna Khalid Ali reveal the above sensitive information? Does it indicate realignment inside Iraq? Are the Sunni Muslims and the Shiites joining hands against the US and other multinational forces? Is this a price we have to pay because of the anticipated hostility with Iran?

The following news only aggravates the agony.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/10/washington/11militarycnd.html?hp&ex=1163221200 &en=c7d7e9182f360bcd&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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But when he was asked about the general’s remarks, the chief White House spokesman, Tony Snow, said the administration is still committed to victory in Iraq, and that its definition of victory has not changed. Mr. Snow defined victory as “an Iraq that can sustain, defend and govern itself,” words virtually identical to those used recently by President Bush and his surrogates.
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Ivan
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 10:32 am:   

Separation of Church and Sate, by God's Rule.


quote:

Governments rule by consent of the people. This is achieved by either a social contract or by fear of the consequences of failure to comply in a dictitorial regime. When the consequences of compliance become greater than the consequences of non-compliance in a repressive regime then change happens. --Ed


That is profound. It is true for every social order from the tribal chief, to nations, to social committees. We rule only by consent, either positive consent such as through the agreed upon democratic process, or negative consent through fear and oppressive tyranny we dare not challenge. The positive consent works far better than the negative, because change is more easily achieved and the rulers must respond to the wishes and fears of the people. Whereas negative consent is rigid so can be deposed only through force, revolution, violence, and the results are always damaging. Why the rest of the world that is still ruled by negative consent cannot see this is really a puzzle, especially in today's world of instant communications. Add to this mix the religious component, to a world really ruled by men and not God, the tyranny becomes more rigid still. To depose such tyranny by men who think themselves ruling for God means they must be proven wrong, that they are not gods but men. Hence, in positive consent societies, there is separation of church and state.

God gave men, and women, the mental ability to rule themselves. Anyone who then claims to speak for God in this ability to rule ourselves is negating the God given right we have to rule ourselves, as free human beings, which becomes a contradiction. Democratic constitutional rule is the natural law of God, while theocratic rule in the name of God is an abrogation of God's rule.

I hope the free people of Iran will see this difference, and act upon God's rule as their own, by the consent of the people.


Ivan

Ps: The sectarian quasi-religious struggle within Iraq in the end must comply with this rule of God through the separation of church and state, which at this time their constitution does not make clear. I foresee more violence in Iraq when the western alliance pulls out, not if but a matter off when. Without that clear separation of church and state (something the American administration's plan for Iraq never made clear), the 'victory' in Iraq will be hollow, more blood will flow. The rule of God cannot be abrogated by religious zealot's Sharia tyranny. Men and women must be free to be ruled by God's will.

God help them.
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Ivan
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 10:56 am:   

Same for Turkey.

Chants as Turks bury ex-PM Ecevit, BBC News.
"Thousands of Turks have demonstrated in support of secularism during the funeral of the veteran statesman Bulent Ecevit in the capital Ankara.

"Turkey is secular and will remain secular," crowds chanted as his coffin reached the city's main mosque.

They also booed the arrival of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whose party has its roots in political Islam.

Mr Ecevit, a staunch secularist, served as Turkish prime minister five times in a political career spanning 50 years."

Some people in Turkey understand the importance of this, but some will not. If Turkey ever hopes to join the modern world, whether or not Europe, it must understand this, that it separates church and state.
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 03:37 pm:   

Thanks for the kind words Ivan,

When asked how I can run an intelligence network linked via the Internet, and am able to coordinate the decentralized operation of scores of agents in full view of the most advanced surveillence systems on the face of the earth, I answer with the following.

I have the cabability to visualize a game space, integrate data and then run projected courses of action incorporating the effects of weather and other forces into the assessments. I then, through training in covert communication techniques pass data back and forth via agents.

It is this capability that I brought to bear on the Republican Government in concert with a host of others.

When I came back home I returned to one of the orignal centers of the American Revolution. From it I and other members of the founding families using networks of contacts coordinated the down fall of the Republicans in full view of the world.

When the Bush supporters pushed back, I went to University spun up several computers and projected earthquakes, the effects of storms and damage estimates. I then published them on the Internet, in school papers for professors to review and droped them in mail boxes and to Church groups to let the Bush supporters and Federal Government know that I was annoyed with them.

I and my network have now turned our attention to Iran. Being able to visualize the game space I am also able to coordinate the movement of agents around the globe by being able to internally assess events and project them against terrain, and other factors such as local socio-cultural conditions in my mind.

What we will be able to do in the short term I do not know. We have never attempted the reform of an Islamic Society before and it poses certain challanges for us. Especially having to work remotely through the internet and via cutouts and agents. Right now I am in the process of reviewing the Iranian data set and performing assessments and estimates.

Now you know what helped win the Cold War and just what got dumped on the street by George Bush and what it was capable of doing. And yes on my vacation I was asked by the Rev. Fallwell to coordinate the over through of Chavez. I declined, I have to much on my plate at the momment.

My Best

Ed
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 04:58 pm:   

For Mohideen Ibramsha

I have mentioned some of the capabilites I and my supporters brought to bear on the Bush Administration.

At University in addition to my studies, I was teaching the students a class in religion, morals, ethics and peaceful revolution on the side.

I showed them my capabilites and asked them to match me. They accepted the challange. During our sessions agents of the federal government came on campus. We decided to perform a demonstration of capability. I told him in the open follow me and think about what would happen if someone got their hands on a stealth bomber armed with a nuclear device. I then signaled a student with a cell phone who sent a text to another that went to another. As we walked on into the building on a TV monitor flashed a story about the code Broken Arrow. That is the code for the loss of a nuclear weapon. It was a demonstration of the capability to manipulate the media.

In another demostration of capability a local women, expert in birds, trained a Hawk to recognize the jacket that I wore. It was green in color. As I walked campus the hawk would fly over head keeping me in sight. The hawk was also trained to recognize a gun and would screach if it saw one.

To over through the Government of Iran. The sudents must approach the capability demonstrated by my students at University.
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Ivan
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 05:01 pm:   

Terror-fate, Le Chef, interesting idea that 'God' put the Israelis at Jerusalem to save the Arabs from annihilation, never occurred to me. If so, God has an ironic turn of 'Mind' without small measure of humor. So both sides, though locked in hate, need each other! How cosmically perverse. This is a test, obviously, for both. If they gain peace, they pass. If they fail, only 'God' knows how tragic it will be. Peace is the better solution here, if the Arabs can see it as the 'hand of God', the same 'God' created by the ancient Israelites. Wow.

Ed, do you think Iran understands this? Perhaps some do, but I fear their officials who call for 'destruction of Israel' are not considering 'God's test' for them. If they succeed in destroying it, they fail. And then what? Wow...

Ivan
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 08:02 pm:   

The sudents must approach the capability demonstrated by my students at University.
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 04:58 pm: Peace and Freedom


http://www.isna.ir/Main/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-819149&Lang=E
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"This intelligent robot has the ability to cook various types of food like curries, soups and rice without the presence of human beings," informed the Iranian student, Mohammad Ghahremani.

"This robot can cook food for 1-12 persons in two methods, manual or automatic and the cooking starting time and the time for adding various food particles are adjustable. It also has a conserver out of which it serves the food," he added.
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There are capable students in Iran too.
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 08:08 pm:   

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/11/africa/ME_GEN_Israel_Iran.php
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"In other words: Iran must start to fear," Olmert said. "The guideline has to be that this government and the people of Iran must understand that if they do not accept the request of the international community, they're going to pay dearly."

Israel has ratcheted up its rhetoric regarding Iran in recent weeks. Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh indicated in weekend interviews that as a "last resort" Israel could take military action to stop Iran from achieving the technological know-how needed to build nuclear weapons.

But Olmert declined to say in the interview whether Israel would take military action if international efforts failed.

"I prefer not to discuss the Israeli option. Israel has many options," Olmert said.
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My question is: Do we have time to teach the Iranian students?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 01:02 pm:   

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378379290&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull
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… shortly before the Lebanon war, Maj.-Gen. Eliezer Shkedy was appointed head of the IDF's Iranian Front - and as such will command any future strikes against Syria or Iran.
Some analysts say that it would have been better for Israel to attack Syria during the recent war with Hizbullah. Syria has consistently supplied Hizbullah with weapons, and according to recent UN reports, has continued to smuggle arms to the organization despite an international embargo. "If they had acted against Syria during this last kerfuffle, the war might have ended more quickly and better," American analyst Richard Perle said.
"Syrian military installations are sitting ducks and the Syrian air force could have been destroyed on the ground in a couple of days," Perle continued.
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Between the Lebanon war and now could the sitting ducks have become flying ducks? The threat due to overconfidence remains.
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 03:43 pm:   

Mohideen Ibramsha

With regards to having the time to teach the students in Iran the tactics, techniques and procedures for peaceful revolution.


At present Iran's economy is beset by a number of structural problems. This has led to an unemployment rate of 30 percent. For one third of the Iranian population the revolution has failed to provide for them.

For these young men and women they see the rampant corruption within the country, the wealth and power of the religious elite and money being funneled to support the export of the revolution.

Are the Iranians ready and able to openly oppose this and bring about change? Not yet.

In 1999 the students tried, but in doing so they lacked the support of the 30 percent of the Iranian population that is unemployed and for whom the revolution is a failure.

Following the 1999 national student protests the student movement went underground. Into this underground movement needs to come a man or women able to bridge the gap between the two groups and coordinate the actions of both groups from behind the scenes. One with a vision of the future he or she would build that all agree to.

To do this takes time, dedication and support.

As things are going I don't know if we have the time. Come the spring I will be in the UAE for a few days. To show the children of Islam what is possible and what one man can do, backed by the support of the people, churches and the skills of the best and brightest of university students.

Having the right family connections also helps. Besides being directly descended from the founders of the United States, my wife's family and mine have fought against and with St Joan of Arc, William the Conqureor, and a host of others. Our families battled for control of the Holy city of Jeurselum and faced the forces of Saladeen the great.

To the cause of Freedom we are pledged. To those forces that battle for peace and god we have pledge our health, wealth, influence, skills and abilities.

May you and your friends pass word to others who in turn pass word to Iranians that long for the day of freedom to come. As I sit here the rain falls on my house and on the ancient monuments to the Great American revolution that lay on the ancient town green and parade field where our forces of Freedom marshaled before battle. From this place we raised a rebellion of peace that brought down a government. Around this green lays a Jewish Temple, Christian Catholic Church, Anglican Church and Protestant meeting hall. Along with a Grange House and market place. Near this green also lays the house in which George Wahington planned the battle of Yorktown that ended the revolutionary war.

Such symbols are important in the fight for freedom because they remind the people of what was once done and what we stand for.

God Bless

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=150924
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WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush geared up Sunday to seek a new course in Iraq, which may include cooperation with Syria and Iran, as leading US lawmakers called for a withdrawal of US troops to begin within four to six months.
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How could we cooperate with Iran when Israel is preparing for the ‘last resort?’
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Ivan
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 07:30 pm:   


quote:

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=150924
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WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush geared up Sunday to seek a new course in Iraq, which may include cooperation with Syria and Iran, as leading US lawmakers called for a withdrawal of US troops to begin within four to six months.
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How could we cooperate with Iran when Israel is preparing for the ‘last resort?’



Mohideen, aren't you subconsciously confusing things here? How would a change in US policy towards Iran, or withdrawal from Iraq, equate with Israel's preparadness for possible attacks from Iran, or Syria, both of which swore to wipe out Israel? Are being Freudian here?

Anyway, that aside, put yourself in Isarel's shoes. What would you do against neighbors who swore to anihilate you?
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 08:29 pm:   

Ivan,

Israel has the right to defend itself. This issue of engaging Iran and Syria is from a pragmatic approach and is likely necessary to bring about a lessoning of hostility.

Iran and Syria are brutal regimes, but sometimes you have to negotiate with adversaries to bring about a solution to a problem that could destabilize the entire region.

The religious leaders of Iran are faced with a serious internal problem. The younger generation is becoming more and more frustrated with the rule of the religious elite. The 1999 student uprising resulted in a brutal crackdown that led to many being killed and jailed. One leader of the protests Ahmad Batebi was put in jail and has become a symbol and leader of student resistance, he currently lays near death in Evin Prison in Iran.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Batebi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_student_protests,_July_1999

It is men such as this in Iran that I extend my hand to and pray for.

To bring down the Iranian government from within is a difficult task but not impossible. To do it will require skill, patience, leadership, commitment and support on the same level I and my students demonstrated.

Whether we have the time necessay to do it is another question.

That Iran's fanatical regime must be brought down is a given. One hopes we can do it peacefully if not, then other means may have to be used.

Ed
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 08:55 pm:   

In Evin prison lay others besides Ahmad Batebi

http://www.compassdirect.org/en/newslongen.php?idelement=3718

A Iranian army Colonel Pourmand reportedly was jailed for being christian and deceiving the Iranian armed forces about his religion. For that crime, which he denies, having said that his faith has been known for 25 years, he was sentenced to 3 years in Evin prison. He also served as a pastor in a small Assemblies of God congregation of which his Assyrian Christian wife was a member.

In that hellhole known as Evin prison two men meet, and through networks of contacts information is provided and hope is whisphered from one Assembly of God church member to another to another until it reaches into the darkness of Evin prison. From that contact information is passed to Ahmad Batebi and then on to his supporters.

In a man made hell one Christian network reaches out to comfort a man that defied the Religous Fanatics that put him there.

From my contacts in the Churches we span the Globe and in the darkness a message of hope is sent.

Sometimes just knowing that thousands linked to pass a single message is sufficient to bring hope into hell itself.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 09:01 pm:   

Saudi bloggers challenge longtime restrictions
Young Arabs hope new technology will speed region's pace of reform

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15676312/

Change comes from within

Friendly Ghost
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 09:39 pm:   

'Hanoi Hilton' memories
EX-POW RECOUNTS CODE THAT KEPT PRISONERS' SPIRITS HIGH

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/15161633.htm

Decades ago the prisoners in Vietnam used code to keep hope alive against all odds. Across the Globe as we sit here a message is flowing across from cell phone to computer to person. In the dark it will reach into Evin prison in the form of a message of hope to a dying man from a group of the best and brightest revolutionaries this world has ever seen.

Friendly Ghost
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Ivan
Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 09:58 pm:   

Ed, Friendly, fighting evil is never easy. In fact, this has been the great quest of humankind from the dawn of our humanity. When those who portray evil, even if they don't know it, by coercing others, such as was witnessed by Nazis, or Communist regimes, imprisoning or murdering thousands if not millions of innocent people; they will fight us as if they were in the right, and we in the wrong. The test of this is whether freedom wins, or coercive powers win. The new war is against Jihad, and all the evils it portrays. The brave students of Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or any of the lands dominated by forces that hate, and fear, our human freedoms is but one continuous battle that has been fought, even by our ancestors; we won since we are here. Freedom will win, of course, as it has slowly and haltingly through the millennia, even against this newest manifestation of anti-freedom forces. It does not matter what they call themselves, or what gods they pray to, the battle is very old, and still the same. When victory finally is received by all men and women who love freedom, and understand their victory over the ages of evil, it will be a new world. Maybe not in our lifetime, most likely not, but in the end, humanity as a gift from God as free human beings will usher in a whole new age for our world. That is the Quest, and when it happens, God will have a whole new face for humanity.

There is one small hope in the world now, that slavery had been abolished throughout the planet. We long ago erradicated cannibalism, which was once universal to all primitive peoples, and now ended slavery. But we still have one more serious war to fight, to erradicate coercion itself. Then humankind will be free to rise in cosmic consciousness to the next level. It will be done, on Earth, as it is in...

Ivan
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Ivan
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 12:05 am:   

Mohideen, is this what you were referring to in your article above, about discussions at the Whitehouse between Bush and Olmert regarding Syria and Iran?

Iran key as Israel PM meets Bush
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6142284.stm

How could we cooperate with Iran when Israel is preparing for the 'last resort'? I think the discussions will explore multi-level strategies, contingent upon the responsiveness or non-responsiveness of Iran to proposals regarding Iraq. Israel has its own agenda, one of survival as a state within a hostile neighborhood. Israel's future is not as much Iraq dependent, though it could be jeopardized if Iraq regresses into total civil war, where Iran (who wants death to Israel) takes over control of the Iraqi government, in the way it took over control of Lebanon's government through its proxy Hezbollah. So there's a lot on the table. Once US and western Alliance troops start to leave Iraq, perhaps by early next year, the power balance of the region could do a major shift, leaning towards Iran especially, if the Iraq government is unable, or unwilling, to control the sectarian violence. If this happens, it will behoof the US to find a solid alliance with Israel, with support of materiel and military capabilities. The US is also a generous donor to Egypt, but doubtful Egyptians can be reliable allies against another Islamic state. That's just the way the pieces now sit on the board in the Middle East. So military preparedness makes sense at this time, all around. I hope the Kurds get their own state, if all else starts to fall apart here, and can be more an ally to the Alliance than any of the other states around, including Iraq. Still hard to know what's shaping up in the region, as it applies to Turkey or Lebanon, or Russia. Time will tell, but preparedness is the better strategy for now, and get everybody talking. My reservations are that Iran will not play fair, will hide and deceive its true intentions, as they had already demonstrated over the past year regarding its nuclear intent. Stall and delay seems to be their strategy, keeping everybody off balance. I would not trust Iran, not good for their word. No doubt war is deceit, but when peace is deceit, it is useless to talk. Then we get heavy.

Oh yeah, the UN. Keep them out of the loop, they're useless.

Ivan
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Alliance of Patriots
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 05:05 am:   

http://www.compassdirect.org/en/newsarcen.php?idelement=4533&critere=iran&countr yname=&rowcur=0

After 22 months, Hamid Pourmand is reunited with his family.

Iran - Tuesday September 12, 2006

Embeded in this message is a code from the Christians and supporters of the The Alliance of Patriots

22 the number 2 is used to indicate a intelligence section within United States Military Intelligence Organization for example J2, G2 or S2.

It was posted on Sept 12 one day after the aniversery of 9/11 by a Christian groups that tracks persecution and the Assemblies of God. The release date in Iran 22 months was chosen to indicate a signal back from moderates in the Iranian system.

We begin to establish dialog with powers in Iran operating in the background attempting to influence policy.

There is more to the message but that is just the begining.

Alliance of Patriots
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peace and Feedom
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 05:42 am:   

Mohideen Ibramsha

You are a computer engineer and one last weapon we used in the war of rebellion against George Bush was this.

While working on a high level project with the United States State Department, we were using a very powerful algorthym to assist with refining data searches. It would remember what you were looking for, record it and offer you choices on the next search that were based on what it thought you were looking for, bringing up key messages.

My group took that technology after the State Department shut the program down and is using it to distribute messages via search engines to its members. Hence the message traffic we are able to access via our PC's and the world wide web, and information coded in specific messages.

The Knight Templars did not go away. But are some of the most technological sophisticated people on the planet.

My students took the concept and crudely applied it to manipulating the search for candidate information during the election, hijacking the google searches on the World Wide Web.

To overthrough the Iranian regime will take a grasp of technology on this level.

My Best

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 02:41 pm:   

My reservations are that Iran will not play fair, will hide and deceive its true intentions, as they had already demonstrated over the past year regarding its nuclear intent.
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 12:05 am: Ivan


The following piece of news, if true, confirms Ivan’s conclusion above.
http://washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20061109-082809-3991r.htm
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In January, the German magazine Bild reported that Iran purchased 18 BM-25 land-mobile missiles from North Korea. The BM-25 is a variation of the SS-N-6, a Soviet-made submarine-launched ballistic missile, with a range of up to 1,800 miles. The BM-25, according to Mr. Rubin, "is a nuclear missile...There is no other warhead for this other than a nuclear warhead." The Iranian missile threat is clearly growing.
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With respect to Israel and USA my understanding is that we are in a bind. Unless our troops are out of Iraq, we cannot even contemplate an attack on Iran. The possibility of the Iraqi police joining hands with the Sunni insurgents cannot be ignored. Once that happens our forces are at risk whether they are outside their barracks or inside. From Israel’s point of view, any delay in restricting Iran increases her risk. The great dilemma for us is the action we should take if Israel indeed attacks Iran.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/787238.html
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In the interview, Olmert compared Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Adolf Hitler and said "he has to be stopped."

"My position is clear," the prime minister said regarding Iran. "If there can be a compromise that will stop Iran short of crossing the technological threshold that will lead them into nuclear capabilities, we will be for such a compromise."

"But I don't believe that Iran will accept such compromise unless they have a very good reason to fear the consequences of not reaching it," explained Olmert. "In other words, Iran must start to fear."

When asked what he thought could be done about Iran, Olmert said, "I can think of many different measures. The guideline has to be that this government and the people of Iran must understand that if they do not accept the request of the international community, they're going to pay dearly."

Responding to the interview, Iran said it would react swiftly and harshly to such a move by Israel.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told a news conference on Sunday that Iran would put into action its Revolutionary Guards if Israel attacked the Islamic Republic.

"If Israel takes such a stupid step and attacks, the answer of Iran and its Revolutionary Guard will be rapid, firm and destructive and it will be given in a few seconds," he said.
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As a Muslim I can say that no believer – whether the belief is correct or mistaken – yields to threat. It could be seen in Iran’s response quoted above. The problem that we face is how we ensure that the war of words does not escalate into a war of deeds.

Can Russia and China pacify Iran while USA and UK pacify Israel? After all Iran is years away from her first nuclear bomb and thus pacification for a year or two should be feasible. And we should disengage from Iraq within that period.
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Alliance of Patriots
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 02:56 pm:   

Bush calls for global isolation of Iran
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_israel

Al-Qaida threatens to topple Lebanon govt.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_politics_al_qaida

In the quest to support those fighting for freedom in Iran do we pledge our support and grasp of technology.

We support isolation of Iran and the targeted sanctions as proposed by Colin Powell as part of an effort to bring forth change in Iran. To those we add our support in covert communications skills and contacts we are establishing within the structure of Iranian society at all levels.

In responce to our efforts Al Qaida seeks to match our capabilities on the great game board.

In this war in the shadows do we battle for the hearts, souls and minds of those who seek peace, freedom and justice around the globe.

To this end we pledge our lives, property and skills till this war is finished and people may walk freely once again in the Middle East.

Alliance of Patriots
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 03:58 pm:   

Iranians outraged as Google redraws map
Monday November 13, 2006

1946163%2C00.html,http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1946163,00.ht ml

Iran's Internet Police and Intelligence and Security Services surveying the Web have accused Google of attempting to undermine the country's stability by moving the location of city on a map.

Now consider the fact that Iranian intelligence is shifting through the web to locate data like this and has been monitoring this website among others.

In full view of Iranian Intelligence I and my team have begun to chart the players in their game of network analysis from open sources and actions among other tools at our disposal.

We couple this to advanced artificial intelligence search technology and we begin to penetrate Iranian society. Tie this to ancient communication techniques, and religous organizations sharing a common code speak on the bible and the Iranian's begin to react.

Releasing a story to probe the waters regarding what we did and are doing.

Action and reaction. We drop a Internet communications depth charge and up comes an Iranian message following it.

I say hello to the Iranian Intelligence Services and say welcome to our game.

I have many things on my plate and will drop in from time to time to chart you networks and expose them.

My Best

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 04:14 pm:   

Iran’s Khamenei blasts NATO

In a recent statement Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei accuses the West of establishing a, "Cultural Nato" that seeks to use the far-reaching capability of the media in order to control countries’ primary source of political, economic, social and cultural development resource"

It seems that the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been getting updates on the Alliance of Patriots activities from Ed's postings from his Intelligence and Security services.

Friendly Ghost
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Anon
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 04:36 pm:   

Yes Friendly

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has been watching what I and the organization I belong to am doing. When we turned our attention to Iran he started to speak with regards to the, "West".

I like to have a face on my desk of my adversaries in the great game. In my mind based on the data I am correlating I am reconstructing the networks that crisscross Iran. From it we test Iran and gage its reaction.

Tonnight at the Univerity I will have a discussion of Iran and what we can do to influence it.

From his statements teams of psychologists are probing the fears and beliefs of the Ayatollah and his supporters. From that we will, in a decentralized fashion, use that data to bring the war for freedom into Iran before his very eyes using his fears to our advantage.

My Best

Ed
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Anon
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 06:56 pm:   

Friendly,

I canvased the University teams that represent various cells, networks teams of specialists to include our technology groups.

Concern has been raised about focusing to many resources on Iran. China was put on the table as an emerging threat we need to be concerned about.

Pending deliberation of the decentralized cells and a vote we will continue our efforts in the Middle East to penetrate Iran and establish dialog with those opposed to the current leadership, while expanding contacts within China with the student movement that was crushed.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 07:25 pm:   

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061113/pl_nm/mideast_usa_dc
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Leading Democrats and some U.S. allies are calling on Washington to open dialogue with Iran. Bush has rejected direct talks until Tehran suspends uranium enrichment.
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We would not talk with Iran until she suspends the enrichment; Iran would not suspend the enrichment until she receives guarantees. A very nice deadlock to be resolved by --- war!
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ANON
Posted on Monday, November 13, 2006 - 09:11 pm:   

Mohideen Ibramsha,

It is this because of this deadlock that I, my students and the Alliance of Patriots, along with the Clinton plan supporters have opened dialog with the moderate and underground members in Iran.

We have built, with support of moderate religious groups, networks of contacts to reach across the globe to moderate members of the Iranian Government.

In doing so we have constructed an advanced system of communication that defies NSA surveillence capabilities. To do so we used copies of advanced search algorythems that alow us to bring to selected users messages and data sets within which is coded messages, keyed to each member, traffic that only they can decypher.

For example the message regarding the Iranian Colonel that was a associate pastor in the Assembly of God that was sent by the moderate Iranians in code. The message was we know that your family is highly placed in the Assembly of God and one former military member is an associate pastor in the Assembly of God. We also know that these members of your family that belong to churches are former intelligence officers, nuclear weapons experts, electronics and cryptographics officers, with access to all forms of high technology possessed by the west, hence the 22 days referenced in the message. We also know that you decieved the religous conservatives in the United States military for 24 years as to your faith. Accept minority status for Christians under our rule, abide by the laws set by us and we will begin to relax our resistrictions over time as we moderates grow in power and influence.

Message sent back was as follows: We accept a fair application of the rule of law, and your right to order your society as you see fit as long as you respect the rights of all people with regards to religion. We believe in the one God. We warn you of precipitous actions. Remember the days after 9/11 and our response.

As a way of demonstrating our ability to manipulate the internet we posted the change to the Iranian map. It was done to send the following signal. We have our sacred sites that harken back to the great American Revolution and we have the ability to reach out and attack those of yours if necessary.

It is a dialog that we are conducting in full view of the world, in an effort to open a line of communication with the moderates in Iran.

We have two men in power in this conflict that will not bend and hold fanatical religious beliefs. One in Iran and one in Washington, between the two of them they have made war a likely outcome.

In the middle of this conflict we have opened a dialog. In the hope that moderates on both sides will prevail.

Ed
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Ivan
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 12:13 am:   

Iran and the Bomb, the Pakistani, N. Korea, and Dutch connection.

Mohideen, in your important reference above, it says:

quote:

In the interview, Olmert compared Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Adolf Hitler and said "he has to be stopped."

"My position is clear," the prime minister said regarding Iran. "If there can be a compromise that will stop Iran short of crossing the technological threshold that will lead them into nuclear capabilities, we will be for such a compromise."


And per yours: "Can Russia and China pacify Iran while USA and UK pacify Israel? After all Iran is years away from her first nuclear bomb and thus pacification for a year or two should be feasible. And we should disengage from Iraq within that period."

Here is a 'paper trail' of Iran's nuclear bomb aspirations, which track back to Dr. AQ Kahn of Pakistan, On the trail of the black market bomb, BBC News, Feb. 12, 2004: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3481499.stm
"The story begins in the early 1970s. An ambitious young Pakistani metallurgist Abdul Qadeer Khan (known in the style of the sub-continent by his initials AQ) was working in the Netherlands for a Dutch company called Physics Dynamic Research Laboratory. ...

Specifically, he was able to get blueprints for a centrifuge made by Urenco." (italic mine)

This is followed by:
"Khan back in Pakistan

Armed with his blueprints, Dr Khan then set up the AQ Khan Research Laboratories near the Pakistani capital Islamabad and began to build the bomb, often getting supplies and equipment from European companies. In those days, controls were lax and in any event much of the equipment was dual use so its ultimate purpose could be hidden. Dr Khan was remarkably successful. ...

Iran's admission

At the same time, Iran was having to admit that it, too, had acquired expertise from abroad.

The Iran operation pre-dated the one with Libya and was less sophisticated because it seems that Dr Khan simply gave the Iranians surplus equipment. He had over-ordered some parts for his own needs, so he had something to sell. He had also developed new centrifuges which meant that the old ones could go on the market.

One of them, which ended up in Iran, was apparently contaminated with enriched uranium. This was found by the United Nations nuclear agency, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Iran was forced to admit either that it had processed the fuel itself or got it by accident. It chose the latter explanation, but that opened up the whole question of where it came from."

The article also talks of the Libya connection, but they backed out. Lest anyone think Iran is not thinking 'nuclear bomb' here's what Dr. Khan had to say about his own ambitions, a little bit of takkiyya perhaps: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3343621.stm
" During his work, Dr Khan insisted that the programme had no military purpose, but following the 1998 tests admitted: "I never had any doubts I was building a bomb. We had to do it."" (italic mine)

North Korean eventually supplied some of the missiles for Pakistan's nuclear warheads. The Dutch-British-German consortium Urenco (unknowingly?), supplied the hardware and blueprints.

Bottom line is that all this is available on the open 'black' market for spare parts, uranium enrichment centrifuges, blueprints, technical assistance, missile delivery, all for a price, and the will to use it. Why, how could Iran resist? Of course they want the 'bomb'! Every kid on the block has one. Why not a bomb for Somalia? No, no, no, too horrific, even Iran would be against it!

Let's hope cooler and smarter heads prevail here, for such a war will be horrific indeed. They don't understand the power they are playing with, though Libya did understand.

Ivan
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 03:40 am:   

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378391159&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull
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A religious Iranian bomb
By DANIEL DORON

The Iranians, who always pushed for higher oil prices even under the Shah, are now dependent for their survival on high income from oil. Saudi Arabia wants to curb oil prices to avoid development of alternative fuels and sources.

… MEANWHILE, the Iranians cleverly exploit Arab, especially Saudi, hatred against the West and Israel, not only to distract attention from their ultimate goals but to actually assist them, as in Iraq, to gather jihad under the Shi'ite flag. Their sponsorship of worldwide terrorism, their undermining of any possible settlement of the Palestinian issue helps them rile up and distract Arab Sunni masses. They hope that, eventually, when the tsunami of Muslim anger finally breaks its bounds, as they predict, it will also sweep away corrupt Sunni Arab regimes and replace them and their by-then discredited dispensation, by a purer and triumphant Shi'ism.

This is an argument I made as long ago as the early 1990s (in The Wall Street Journal, The Financial Times and The Jerusalem Post).

A strict oil blockade then, resulting in a severe cut in income, could have undermined the stability of the ayatollahs' regime, dependent on huge welfare payments. It would also have denied them the means for their costly atomic program.

Today it may be too late. However, it may still be worthwhile to test how the ayatollahs' welfare- and military-dependent regime copes with a severe drop in oil income.

Otherwise, military action seems the only alternative.
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Any blockade of Iranian oil would result in a reduction in the world oil supply. Such a reduction is bound to push the oil prices higher simply due to the ‘Law of supply and demand.’ Of course the denial of revenue to the Iranians might speed up the regime change due to internal forces and then the oil could be released.

Are we in a position to take the bitter pill of higher oil prices, for a while under our control, to cure mankind of a catastrophic war? The alternative of Iran blockading the oil supply route also results in the price of oil sky rocketing. If the price goes up because of Iranian action the reduction in oil supply could be severe and longer than the cushion, if any, the world economy has.
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:47 am:   

Two can play the message game it seems. If we look at the press and certain statements from Tony Blair we have the following words pulled out by a newspaper as being important

LONDON, Nov. 13 —

Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain said Monday that the “NATURE OF THE BATTLE” had changed and that Western strategy in the Middle East must “EVOLVE,” possibly to include a “NEW PARTNERSHIP” with Iran.

He also laced his speech with criticism of Iran, accusing it of “USING PRESSURE POINTS IN THE REGION” to thwart Western diplomacy.

Mr. Blair’s NUANCED GESTURES on Iran, and also Syria, were made a day before he speaks by VIDEO LINK to a bipartisan panel in Washington, the Iraq Study Group, on some of the same THEMES.

Given Ed's demonstrated capabilities it seems that Blair is trying to become part of the dialog as well.

Friendly Ghost
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 05:13 am:   

Yes Ghost he is

I have attached the following regarding what I and my organization are engaged in:

The U.S. Department of Defense defines psychological warfare (PSYWAR) as:

"The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_warfare

Information warfare (IW) - also known as 'infowar' - is a term used to describe any range of attempts by one side in a conflict to deny or disrupt an enemy's information and information systems, while preventing adversaries from doing the same to the information and information systems of friendly forces.

Couple the above to game theory and you begin to see the nature of the war my distributed network has waged from universities, in the press and with timed release of scandle information.

We have now turned that capability on Iran, China and will turn it on Syria as well.

During the downsizing of the military some of the best and brightest of the intelligence corps were thrown out of work. Couple that to the gays purged from the military, officers thrown out because of minor infractions of a strick moral code and link all of that training and personnel via the internet.

During the downsizing of the military we were concerned the downsized intelligence personnel would sell thier skills to drug dealers or forgien powers.

what I have done is link them via the internet to other groups in defense of the freedoms enshrined in our laws and constitution. When I went into a catholic hospital the technician that took my vitals was an ex morse code interceptor from the code war, we had a conversation. About how in the old days in full view of everyone the morse code breakers would tap out mesages to each other and drive the commanders nuts. He smiled when he left.

Such is the nature of the Cold War team I have been reconstituting as a distributed intelligence network.

That is the capability we brought to bear on George Bush.

Ed

PS

Fake Air Force One Video
http://www.stillfree.com/

Take a look at the hat the man that did this is wearing and the name of his site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Ecko


My Best

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 05:49 am:   

PS listen to the video as to why he did it. :-) :-) :-)

Friendly Ghost
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 10:48 am:   

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2006/11/14/ap3172225.html
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President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday said Iran would soon celebrate completion of its controversial nuclear fuel program.

"With the wisdom and resistance of the nation, today our position has stabilized. I'm very hopeful that we will be able to hold the big celebration of Iran's full nuclearization in the current year," the hard-line president said referring to the country's nuclear fuel program.

Iran's current calendar year ends on March 20.

The hard-line president also claimed that the international community was caving in to Tehran's demands to continue its nuclear program.
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What is ‘full nuclearization?’ We are possibly given a time limit until March 20, 2007.

Or does Ahmadinejad believe in the following prediction(?):
http://www.newprophecy.net/2007part1.htm
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NEW PREDICTION: 9/5/06 -- For Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to be able to "declare war" on any nation or group of nations, he must first gain control of Iran's armed forces. Presently, despite all the warlike talk coming out of the Iranian president's mouth, only the mullahs, in particular Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, have such control.

This will change in February 2007 when Ahmadinejad overthrows the mullah regime with the help of the army and becomes supreme dictator of Iran. His nation will remain an Islamic theocracy, but he will take the place of the supreme ayatollah. His beard will grow thicker and he will begin wearing a black turban.
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Let us not forget that Ahmadinejad was a teacher!
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Alliance of Patriots
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   

Iran is seeking to take control of Osama bin Laden's al-Qa'eda terror network by encouraging it to promote officials known to be friendly to Teheran, The Daily Telegraph can reveal.

http://www.iranvajahan.net/cgi-bin/news.pl?l=en&y=2006&m=11&d=14&a=4

In an interesting move Iran is moving to establish ties to and influence over the Al Qa'eda organization.

Saif-al-Adel, a senior Al Qa'eda leader is currently in Iran with hundreds of Al Qa'eda followers and two of Osama's sons under the protection of Iran. Recent intelligence indicates he is being groomed by the Iranians to take over as AL Qa'eda's number three leader.

A link to information on him is posted below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_al-Adel

By establishing ties to Al Qa'eda Iran seeks to make itself the center/nexus of overlapping networks of terror, intelligence and espionage.

In response to this building of networks the Alliance of Patriots stands in opposition. Building and merging our networks of Churches, former military, intelligence and law enforcement personnel and other groups that promote peace freedom and civil rights we plan to counter the spread of Jihadist Fundamentalist Dis-Information by supporting the dissemination of the truth.

We also plan to link student activists accross the globe in this fight against Jihadist Fundamentalists and dictatorial regimes and teach them the tactics, techniques and procedures of peaceful revolution that brought down South Africa, the Ukraine, East Germany and the Republican Government of the United States.

Such is the task we set ourselves.

Alliance of Patriots
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   

To the list of Patriots is added Marc Ecko.

Such is a good example of the caliber of the technological team the Alliance of Patriots has in its arsenal.

In a broad based and decentralized network such has been raised by the Alliance of Patriots, talent and creativity is clearly given free rein.

God Bless the Alliance of Patriots

Friendly Ghost
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Ivan
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 06:30 pm:   

This is how we will win the war, because it is first an ideological war against our freedoms, to coerce us into submission. We will win the war by calling coercion what it is, and fighting this coercion itself. Because it is a religious ideological coercion should not bind our hands in defeating it. It is begging to be defeated, though we do not yet understand this. This article makes it plain:

Fighting the Ideological War
Author: Jed Babbin on Tuesday, November 14, 2006
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=695
"We have the ability to tell right from wrong and good from evil and there is no need for us to apologize for that. Nor should we twist our relations with other countries to suit some false moral equivalence. Those who say, for example, that if India or Israel can have nuclear weapons why shouldn’t Iran are guilty of illogic. It is permissible for us, and the rest of the free world, to say that some countries are evil and others are not, and to condition our relations with them all on the basis of our own judgment. To deliver that judgment, and act upon it, is the job of the president."

We are fighting those who have abused the Islamic religion for their own political ends, and thus brought their abuse of power into our world with their evil ideology. They must be conquered, in the same way Nazi ideology was conquered.

Ivan
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Anon
Posted on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 07:59 pm:   

Ivan,

The words below mirror those that I and my fellow's have lived by throughout the Cold War and carried into Battle against the Republicans who thought you could win this war with bullets alone.

In my family we take St. Paul's words to heart.

"Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in heavenly realms."

To the Corinthians Paul explained that each Christian is to fight this war with spiritual weapons rather than the weapons of the world. Paul wrote "For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." 2 Corinthians 10:3-5

These words are also mirror by those spoken by Jed Babbin

Fighting the Ideological War
Author: Jed Babbin on Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 01:59 AM
http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=695


"We fought the Soviet ideology from 1946 to 1989. In those years, we rode our own ideological roller coaster. For many Americans – and many more Europeans, Africans and others around the world – the only weapon in that ideological battle was self-criticism. They were willing to confuse healthy criticism of our own system of government with praise for the Soviet counterparts. They were even willing to deny the horrific repressions, mass murder and subjugation by force of other peoples."


May Peace Prevail, until then we fight the Jihadists and the darkness they would bring.
Ed
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Anon
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 05:52 am:   

The Iraq situation has entered a new phase,

Sadr has risen from the streets using religion, terrorism, and family connections to a position of power in the Iraqi government. He played a game balancing forces of politics, religion, and terrorism to bring this about and halt the mightiest military machine on the face of the earth. He is now playing that same game against the United States government, using the same tools to try and force the U.S. out and consolidate his hold on power. In this game his network of supporters conduct attacks, raids and other operations to further his hold on power, destroy oposition and bring about a withdrawl of U.S. forces. With cell phones, messages and sermons he influences events.

He is opposed by Hakim whose network of supporters were trained in Iran. Hakim holds power in government and plays a game using his network in alliance with Tehran. His game is more subtle and more dangerous. He plays for influence in the government as well.

In the Religous circles the forces of moderation and its networks of supporters are controled by Sistani from his holy city. He plays the game as well but uses only gestures and sermons to guide his networks in this fight for control of the destiny of Iraq.

Such is the game that is being played out on the streets of Iraq.

A battle for control using networks of supporters.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 04:11 am:   

President of the Iranian Resistance Movement invited to speak before the Norwegian Parliament.

http://www.maryam-rajavi.com/content/view/421/61/

In her speach she says she dreams a dream of freedom

Friendly Ghost
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Alliance of Patriots
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 04:54 am:   

The following includes an example of the level of security and type of codes that must be used in establishing dialog with the underground movement in Iran.


http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/iran/thestory.html

"She must be extremely careful as she tries to make contact with Iran's underground student movement. She slips out at night to communicate by email, using a secret code she's developed to communicate with colleagues and sources. But she is careful to return by curfew or risk the hotel receptionist's reporting her"

At present the Alliance of Patriots is expanding its network into the World of Islam.

We are a organization that adheres to seperation of Church and State and promotes democracy and peaceful revolution.

We train, train, teach and mentor freedom loving people and organizations in the tactics, techniques and procedures of peaceful revolution.

We work in concert with all peace loving groups and organizations.
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Anon
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 05:23 am:   

Iraq sectarian strife imperils entire region
Analysts say civil war is a reality, but real worry is that chaos will spread

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15721405/

Such is the legacy that the NEOCONS created.

This is what I fought against and then raised the Alliance of Patriots to strike back at and take back our government.

Perhaps it is to late for Iraq.

We can only pray for the best

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 07:25 am:   

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/16007422.htm
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Asked whether his country was considering plans for a preemptive strike on Iran as the Israelis did in 1981 against Iraq, Olmert snapped: "And if there are, do you think that I have to discuss it on television at this time?"
He added, "I hope we don't have to reach that stage."
Despite the strong rhetoric, an Israeli official later tried to play down the significance of Olmert's U.S. visit, calling it routine.
"This is not a dramatic visit. ... Not every visit is a dramatic one," said Israeli foreign affairs spokeswoman Miri Eisin.
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Whether the last visit was dramatic or not would possibly depend on the action taken on Iran in the coming days.

http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arabtimes/kuwait/Viewdet.asp?ID=9205&cat=a
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Saudi Arabia is experimenting with nuclear technology for peaceful purposes but is not interested in acquiring nuclear weapons, the Saudi ambassador in Kuwait said in remarks published Wednesday.

… US President George W. Bush will not hesitate to use military force against Iran if other options fail, Israel’s outgoing ambassador to the United States said in an interview published on Wednesday. “I know President Bush well ... From his standpoint, a nuclear Iran, ayatollahs with a bomb, is unacceptable,” Danny Ayalon told Israel’s Ma’ariv newspaper. “I have been privileged to know him well, he will not hesitate to go all the way if there is no choice.” Concern over Iran’s atomic ambitions figured prominently in talks in Washington this week between Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

The US and allies including Israel have accused Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian energy programme. Iran denies the accusation. “Anyone who knows President Bush knows that he is very determined. He is convinced of the moral supremacy of democracies over dictatorships ... If the sanctions succeed, all the better. Otherwise, he will act by all means possible, including military action,” he said.
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What happens if the UN Security Council does not decide on sanctions at all?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 08:20 am:   

Dear brothers and sisters,

Assalaamu Alaikum.

I am writing to you in connection with Iran. Inshah Allah you could help in avoiding possible bloodshed in Iran.

Alhamdhulillah I did one piece of research that is found in http://deentech.com/Allah_Exists.aspx Could you spare a few moments and check that internal publication? Inshah Allah I hope to do one research specially concerned about the status of women in Iran soon.

Allah SWT granted bloodless conquest of Makkah to Prophet Muhammad, pbuh. A Christian has outmaneuvered the Bush administration and brought about the change through the recent election. He is now trying to help restore democracy in Iran through peaceful means. You could find a recent post by him at http://www.humancafe.com/discus/messages/88/145.html?1163375515#POST2331

I have no friends in Iran. I am sure some of you have. He (Ed) suggests that the students and the unemployed join hands to usher in a peaceful revolution.

The current Iranian Government is engaged in processing nuclear materials for use in nuclear power plants. Israel and other nations allege that the real purpose is for preparation of nuclear bombs. In view of the following quote, it is stupid to struggle to manufacture nuclear bombs.

http://www.cheniere.org/articles/Yakuza%20threat%20including%20tsunamis%20-%20fi nal%20w%20edits%201%20website%20a.doc
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According to the present Yakuza/KGB/FSB and international terrorist plans, their actions are expected to reduce the U.S. to lying prostrate and helpless two years from now. With a U.S. nation in utter chaos and ruin, and economically already collapsing catastrophically, a touch-up with the FSB/KGB quantum potential weapons (the most powerful weapons on earth, but possessed by at least five nations) will quickly dud every nuclear weapon, ICBM, nuclear bomber, nuclear power plant, nuclear submarine propulsion system, etc. on the planet {[i]}. The dudding will take about 10 minutes, although an hour or so seems to be allotted for it. This is “pulling the dragon’s teeth and claws.” The conventional strategic military power (ICBMs, nuclear bombs and warheads, and nuclear subs etc.) will be suddenly dudded and effectively wiped out, to exist no more. All that giant strategic apparatus will be just so much trash on the garbage dump of history.


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[i]. See (a) T. E. Bearden, Fer-de-Lance, Cheniere Press , 2003 (updated) for some details on quantum potential weapons and their usage. Also see (b) T. E. Bearden, Gravitobiology, Cheniere Press , 2003 (updated) for additional details. Some five nations of the world now possess QP weapons, and a sixth nation is obtaining them. China , Russia , Brazil , Israel , and one other friendly nation are the five present nations.
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Notice that Israel is one of the nations possessing the QP weapons. Thus Iran has no chance of using a nuclear weapon against Israel.

In case one thinks the dudding of nuclear materials is not possible, consider the following Tradition:

http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php?keyword=moon+folded&translator=1&sea rch=1&book=&start=0&records_display=10&search_word=all
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Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "The sun and the moon will be folded up (deprived of their light) on the Day of Resurrection." (Book #54, Hadith #422)
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The light of the sun is due to nuclear reaction. So we can conclude the appearance of the QP weapons is a pointer to the approach of the Day of Judgment. We should emphasizse that when the Day of Judgment occurs is known to God Almighty only. It could be tomorrow or it could be thousands of years away.

What do we desire? We hope that the Iranian Government would abandon the nuclear activities and live in peace. As it transpires, the enemies are using the nuclear weapons as a bait to provoke a war and thus cause a lot of bloodshed.

If the current regime would not rest its full belief in Allah SWT and abandon the quest for nuclear technology - whether civil or weapon - the regime needs to be changed.

Ed offers to change the regime by peaceful means as he has done in the current US election.

Why am I suggesting that we help a Christian change the Iranian regime by peaceful means? There are quite a few world leaders desirous of changing the Iranian regime through war. War necessarily leads to bloodshed. We would like to avoid bloodshed. Why?

http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=5&from_verse=32&to_ve rse=32&mac=&translation_setting=1&show_transliteration=1&show_yusufali=1&show_sh akir=1&show_pickthal=1&show_mkhan=1
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Yusus Ali: 5:32
On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.
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Whether our efforts to avoid war on the Iranian soil succeed or not, Inshah Allah, we would receive our reward from Allah SWT for our intention of saving life.

May I request you to forward this information to your friends - Iranians and others - so that the uselessness of the quest for nuclear technology reaches the people that matter in Iran and we do look forward to peace.

Was Salaam
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 01:50 pm:   

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2006/11/16/MNG MFMDVFB1.DTL&type=politics
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With Iraq policy at a crossroads, the top U.S. commander for the Middle East pleaded Wednesday with Congress for more time and stable troop levels, while acknowledging that only a four- to six-month window remains to stabilize the country before it spins entirely out of control.
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One sure way of hiding a minor chaos is to start a major chaos!
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 04:30 pm:   

For the Democratic Congress of the United States

A master of the game and his network set the conditions for your victory. That window of oportunity was seized upon by your leadership. Their hard work put you into the halls of power.

Like ripples in a pond caused by throwing ever larger rocks into it we created a giant wave as we waged a war in the shadows with weapons of information to give you the chance for victory.

You are now faced by players in the great game who oppose you and what you stand for. In Iraq, Sadr, a product of a leathal systems, plays a brutal game with you for control of the destiny of Iraq. The battle is waged on the streets, in the Iraqi Parliament and in the ministries of the government. He is matched in the game by Hakim, a product of the Iranian system, who also opposes you on the great game board.

You are the product of the finest schools, nutritional programs, education system and health care system on the planet. One crippled genius backed by an Alliance of Patriots the Churches, and Internet coordinated the downfall of the republicans.

The question I pose to you is this, Are you, collectively with all your skills and ability, able to wage war on the great game board to salvage Iraq? In your juncket visits you went to the streets to see bricks and motar projects, when you should have been challenging Sadr and Hakim in the halls of power, leaving the streets to the Military and Reconstruction Experts.

Such is the task that has been set for you.

I, the Alliance of Patriots and the descendents of the founding families will obserb, consoul and aid from the shadows from time to time.

May God Bless and Keep the United States of America

Ed Chesky
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 04:42 pm:   

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1162378411965&pagename=JP ost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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The IDF and Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) revealed Thursday morning that they had cracked a West Bank-based terror cell which was manufacturing suicide belts made with liquid explosives that could not be detected by metal detectors.

… One such belt was worn by cell member Ashraf Hanani, who was arrested in Zahal Square in Jerusalem after he was stopped for a routine ID check in July.
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The problem gets complicated!
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Ivan
Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 10:57 pm:   

AN OPEN QUESTION TO THE STUDENTS OF IRAN:

What does "Freedom" mean for the Iranian students?

Is theirs a quest for freedom of religion, or political freedom, or philosophical freedom?


[For the answer, please go to the discussion: 1400 years of Imperialism, Dismantled, posted today.]

Ivan
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 10:04 am:   

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061117/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush
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HANOI, Vietnam -

President Bush, on his first visit to a country where America lost a two-decade-long fight against communism, said Friday the Vietnam War's lesson for today's confounding Iraq conflict is that freedom takes time to trump hatred.

… Democrats who won control of Congress say last week's elections validate their call for U.S. troops to start coming home soon, while Bush argues — as he did again Friday — for patience with a mission he says can't be ended until Iraq can remain stable on its own.
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Does that mean Bush would not sanction an attack on Iran?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/17/AR2006111700193. html
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"It's just going to take a long period of time for the ideology that is hopeful _ and that is an ideology of freedom _ to overcome an ideology of hate," Bush said after having lunch at his lakeside hotel with Australian Prime Minister John Howard, one of America's strongest allies in Iraq, Vietnam and other conflicts.

"We'll succeed," Bush added, "unless we quit."
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Whether Bush quits Iraq or not is not important now. Would he stop his friend in Israel from attacking Iran – as his father restrained Israel during the first Gulf War – so that the attempt to change regime in Tehran by peaceful means has a chance?

We agree that the control of nuclear technology under the Mullahs is worrisome. However if the Mullahs are removed from power and the democratically elected President of Iran gets the control there should be no anxiety.

Our question is: Would Bush allow time for such a peaceful change of regime in Tehran?
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Peace and Freedom
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 10:48 am:   

Iraq Assessment,

In a coordinated attack by elements of the Shia leadership in Iraq two moves on the great game board were made. One in parliament by elements of the Shia leadership with an arrest warrent issued for a Sunni radical cleric. In concert with that action an attack against Western contractors in Shia controled southern Iraq was conducted. These two moves were designed to further Shia control of political power in Iraq and send a signal to the Allied Coalition that the Shia have the power to disrupt allied operations when ever they choose.

It was also intended to send a message that politics is backed by force.

The allies responded with ground combat forces and attack helicopters. In this game a few pawns were traded by Shia extremists for time spots on the World Wide Web and in the world media.

Fighting erupts after foreigners take captive
Austrian reportedly killed after he and 4 Americans were seized in Iraq
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15757065/

Meanwhile the radical Sunni cleric named in the arrest warrent is in Jordan speaking and teaching. Under surviellence of the intelligence services of Jordan, he furthers contacts with those that supported the Sunni insurgency by appearing in public and holding a discourse on God, Religion, the Koran and Politics.

In doing so he sends a signal back to the Shia that the Sunni have networks of power as well.

His statements and actions are linked to recent statements issued by the Suadi's about the possibility of launching government sanctioned and supported covert operations in Iraq if the country security situation continued to deteriorate.

Iraq gov't distances itself from warrant for cleric
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15762970/

"Iraq's ethnic Kurdish president, Jalal Talabani, who is a Sunni Muslim, said this week Dari promoted "sectarian sedition" with the support of Arab countries, which he did not name."

In this game the forces of moderation are attempting to rally but need support if they are to defuse the Iraqi situation.

If not Iraq will become a battle ground between the Sunni extremist forces who seek to impose their view of Islam on the Middle East and the Shia extremist forces.

Ed
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Alliance of Patriots
Posted on Friday, November 17, 2006 - 11:12 am:   

EXCLUSIVE-Baghdad Shi'ite militant says fighting for all Iraqis
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15747159/

In the battle in Iraq one extremist has learned how to weave the instruments of power, religion and terror into a "Shield" and by doing so is able to walk unhindered within the teaming masses of Sadr city.

He uses deception and lies to manipulate the media. He is the counter to what the Alliance of Patriots have striven to do and would teach.

As such he is discussed here as an example of what we fight against.



Alliance of Patriots
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 04:04 am:   

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/789144.html
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The public will justifiably want to know what has been done to prevent the threat to its existence posed by Iran, and to stop the possible mass exodus of Jews from Israel, as described by Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh. Domestic pressure calling for military action will intensify.

However, experts on strategy have voiced doubts regarding Israel's ability to carry out an effective aerial attack on Iran's nuclear installations, similar to the raid that destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981. The experts say there are three prerequisites for such an operation:

* Accurate and updated intelligence on the locations of the targets, some of which are hidden underground and are well defended

* The right kinds of munitions capable of destroying their targets with a high chance of success

* Diplomatic coordination with the Americans. The U.S. forces in the region could become targets of Iranian retaliation, just like Israel, and therefore there is no way that an independent Israeli action can take place without authorization from Bush. Did Olmert get such a go-ahead and is this why he was pleased with his visit to the White House?

Because of the complexity of an air attack and the uncertainty of its effectiveness, the Israeli experts believe that it is best to take action that would slow down Iran's bid for nuclear arms, instead of aiming for a decapitating strike.

International pressure and sanctions were supposed to delay the Iranians, at least until the regime there fell, or some miracle happened. However, it is not working out.
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Weak leaders were known to have initiated war to divert attention. Do we run that risk with Prime Minister Olmert?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 09:08 am:   

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/president-bush-driving-i_b_34396.html has compared Iraq with Vietnam. The casualties in Vietnam over the first four years were (1961: 16); (1962: 52); (1963: 118) and (1964: 206). He has plotted the figures for additional 3 years as well: (1965: 1,863); (1966: 6,143) and (1967: 11,153). He plotted the Iraq data for the first 4 years: (2003: 486); (2004: 848); (2005: 846); and (2006: 685). He concludes as follows:
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As you can see, in the first four years of Vietnam, there were fewer deaths per year than in Iraq. What's also clear is that in the fifth year of Vietnam (the equivalent of 2007) the death toll rose significantly. The same with the sixth year and the seventh year and so on. But the most significant aspect of this graph are the deaths that occurred AFTER the fourth year of the war.
These post-fourth-year numbers suggest that President Bush, with his escalation and stay the course talk, is driving the Iraq War directly into a wall of death. I mean, the graph literally illustrates the shape of a wall. Of course the total casualty figures in Iraq are astronomical already but if we look at the raw numbers of American military deaths and factor in the almost universally agreed-upon prediction that victory in Iraq is a lost cause, then correlate it all with the historical precedent of a similar war with a similarly lost cause, the die is cast.
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I agree with the spirit of the above argument but not with the mathematics. Let us consider the ratios for both Vietnam and Iraq. 1962 deaths / 1961 deaths gives 3.25 while the corresponding ratios for 1963/ 1962 and 1964 / 1963 are 2.27 and 1.75. Even though the multipliers were decreasing, they were more than 1. The same does not hold true for Iraq with the ratios being 1.74, 0.997, and 0.81. The ratios are decreasing with the important difference that they are less than 1. So on what basis could we extrapolate and say that the continuation of the Iraq war by injecting more troops would result in a debacle similar to Vietnam?

I have imagined myself to be a war hawk while writing the above paragraph!

We have to consider the similarities: In Vietnam we had weapons advantage when the war started; and the Vietnamese neutralized that advantage in four years of fighting. Similarly, we entered the Iraq war in 2003 with advanced weapons. Have we produced qualitatively better weapons during the four years? Have we supplied our sons and daughters inside Iraq with advanced weapons and defensive shields? The answer is NO! So the extrapolation by Bob Cesca, even though wrong by numerical projection, is right by psychological projection.

What are we to do? The Congress had authorized the Iraq war and the Commander-in-Chief is prosecuting the same. The military commanders are supporting the Commander-in-Chief as expected. Don’t forget that in the military hierarchy the subordinate officer is duty-bound to support the superior.

Since the Congress is superior to the Commander-in-Chief could we expect the Congress to act and save our children? The Congress is expected to reconvene. From http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=146728 we have:
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Both the Senate and the House of Representatives will now hold a joint conference when the lameduck session reconvenes on December 4 to reconcile their respective versions and approve a final draft of the legislation.
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Could we dream for miracle that the combined session of the lameduck Congress and Senate would pass an unanimous resolution on the lines of: The Congress and the Senate suspend the authorization given to the Commander-in-Chief to prosecute war outside the borders of USA (but to secure the safety of our troops) until the newly elected Congress and the newly constituted Senate could consider the opinion of the population of USA and formulate appropriate policies.

Do we hope?
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Ivan
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 01:14 pm:   

Voice of reason on the neo-Vietnamization of the Middle East, and the Iraq 'disaster'.


It is the hopes of those who oppose change of power in the Mid East that US and UK alliance gets bogged down in a neo-Vietnam scenario, which history knows is a lost cause. The 'disaster' in Iraq, as verbally posited by Al-Jazeera interviewer Sir David Frost to British Prime Minister Tony Blair, led to a disingenuous response by Mr. Blair, where he repeated the question using the word 'disaster' in polite response (he's so English), but did not confirm that it was in fact a 'disaster'. As he corrected later:

quote:

Mr Blair was challenged by Sir David over the violence in Iraq, saying it had "so far been pretty much of a disaster".
The prime minister replied: "It has, but you see what I say to people is why is it difficult in Iraq?"


The difficulty is that Iraqi are killing Iraqis at record rates, which Mr. Blair acknowledged, but in fact "He was simply acknowledging the question in a polite way before going on to explain his view" (Downing Street spokesman), and not confirming the Alliance policy as disaster. Critics would like to paint it that way, focussing on only one aspect of the total picture involved in Iraq, which is complex. There is a power play by religious clerics on both sides to gain as much force as they can by using their own militias to determine the country's future. This power play is brutal in ways not acceptable to civilized society, so for us who are more inclined towards peaceful democratic resolution of political differences look on in horror, and thus call it a "disaster". But this is a condition particular to that Mid East Islamic culture, where the use of suicide bombers to kill is not something we can relate to in our own culture. This power play must work itself out, where the newly elected government of Iraq, same as in Afghanistan, must find the means to control the sectarian-religious Sunni-Shia conflicts. There could be a neo-Vietnamization in Iraq, since same as in Vietnam, foreign interests are sending in fighters and weapons to continue the destabilization of the country. In Vietnam is was China that lent great support to the North VC, while in Iraq it is Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and a host of other Muslim states who all have a stake in making sure Iraq does not succeed as a democratic state, so they support either side of the Sunni-Shia divide, to keep Iraq firmly within the theocratic-political sphere of Islamic controlled interests. Iraq may appear a 'disaster' to the outside world, though it may only be business as usual for the Iraqis, but is it really a neo-Vietnamization of Iraq?

There are vast differences between Iraq and Vietnam. First of all, the Alliance is not sending in troops for a massive buildup of the war, which did happen in the mid-1960s in Vietnam when the American forces increased dramatically under the Democratic president Lyndon Johnson. That build up was perhaps justified then, since the war was between the Communist North Vietnam and the so-called democratic South Vietnam. There is no such north-south divide in Iraq. The casualty figures for Vietnam rose dramatically with this military buildup, as more troops were present to take casualties; there is no massive troop build up in Iraq, so the numbers will be smaller. If the US and Alliance were to send in a million men into Iraq, perhaps the number of casualties would rise in commensurate proportion, but that is not about to happen. Rather, the talk now is how to disengage from the Iraq conflict, and lower the number of foreign troops to give the Iraqi government a chance to get a handle on its internal insurgency. But Iraq is really only one small front on a much larger war: the western Alliance is fighting against the aggressive ambitions of a world Jihad led by the Islamic theocracy imperialism, which wants to fight the West on many fronts, from European demographics to worldwide terrorist attacks. Their goal is a gradual retreat on all fronts by Western interests with the eventual importation of Sharia law into the host nations to supplant their democratic constitutional laws. In effect, the theocratic Islamic goal, of which Iraq is but one small battle front, is to create a series of 'states within a state' with its Islamic Sharia Jihad agenda, so to gain destabilizing footholds in European and ultimately all democratic nations, so they could start to rule from within. However, as Lebanon demonstrates, the idea of a state within a state, such as Hizbollah within Lebanon, is not a workable solution, but one that leads to greater conflicts. So at all cost, all Western and democratic nations must avoid these Sharia-jihadi inroads into their country's rule of law and constitutional democracies. So this is the larger picture, the real war between Sharia-jihad imperialism and the Western Alliance. Iraq is not as important to this bigger war as is now perceived, so a neo-Vietnamization 'domino' effect is not necessarily what happens if Iraq is turned over to the Islamic fundamentalist interest, since it would mean only one state lost to Jihad, but certainly not a 'disaster'. The problem is thus contained within their borders. It would be a disaster if that Islamization were not contained within the Middle East and spread to the Western world, which is something that cannot be allowed under any circumstances. The West cannot allow Sharia states to exist within their democratic constitutional states, or that is a neo-Vietnamization which cannot be allowed.

In fact, rather than a troop buildup in Iraq, or Afghanistan, it is wiser for Western interests to contain their Sharia-jihadi conflicts within the borders of Islam, so pull out. This is their dog fight, and you do not want to put your hand in it, or you get bit. Instead, we should be pulling out of that dog fight, gradually, to let the masters of these dogs work it out, which means support their democratically elected governments. If they accept Sharia state-within-a-state inside their borders, that is their problem, one we cannot solve for them. What we must be conscious of, and painfully aware with the terrorist threat worldwide, is that these same Sharia-jihad interests cannot penetrate our borders, no matter how many Muslim immigrants live here. They cannot have it their way within our religiously tolerant societies, or else we are allowing a separate and intolerant political force, Sharia, within our borders, which destabilizes the free societies we had worked so hard and long to establish for ourselves. We cannot sacrifice our stability to these foreign interests, interests that covet our social successes in stark contrast to their social and economic failures. To do so would be to sacrifice our freedoms for their intolerant imperialistic Sharia-jihad ambitions, which we cannot. So we must separate out the Iraqi-Iran-Afghanistan conflict from the broader conflict of Western civilization and Islamic Sharia. Their greater Jihad is against us and our way of life, and it may not be allowed to penetrate our borders, but rather be kept at war inside their own borders. In this way, let them exhaust themselves, without a heavy penalty on our troops with casualties. If they want to kill each other, that is their business. But if we make that killing our business, then indeed it would be a 'disaster' and a neo-Vietnamization. We do not want that.

What can happen in Iraq or Afghanistan, or even Iran? They are forced to reform from within. That is where our help should be directed, not with troops, but with support for those individuals and parties within their states that want to disenfranchise the Jihadi Sharia interests and move towards more modern societies built upon the successful model of constitutional democratic principles. The flames of Jihad within their borders can burn out, either with great fire or chocked off from a lack of air. Either way, we win. What we do not want is to fan those fires further with our presence, nor empower their Jihad in any way, while at the same time we are neglecting to put out the Sharia-jihad sparks burning inside our own borders. This is the big issue before President Bush and Congress, as well as for the European leadership, as well as Israel's. Can they disengage from the Mid East conflict, first in Iraq now that Saddam Hussein's regime is turned over to their own government, as well as in Afghanistan, and support the new regimes of Afghanistan and Iraq with moral support, and financial aid, but not necessarily military support, so to avoid neo-Vietnamization. In fact, I think financial support may be too generous already, since much of it goes unaccounted for. Where is the money spent? What will happen is in our disengagement, the governments of these new states will be forced to address their own internal issues of Islamic fundamentalist Sharia-jihad, and solve it themselves. We've done what we need to do in the Middle East, now it's their dog fight.

Iran with its nuclear bomb ambitions is a separate story. Regime change there is of primary importance, if we are to avoid a possible nuclear conflagration in the region. The Sharia-jihad empowered with nuclear weapons is a world threat, with Europe and Israel especially at risk. In the interest of world peace, the Iran theocratic regime must be addressed with force, and extreme force if necessary, if the people of Iran cannot reign in their nuclear aspirations, or their ingrown Sharia-jiahd. That is firstly their problem, to democratize and secularize their government; but if they fail, then it becomes our problem. And that could be a major problem that would rival Vietnam if not caught early enough, which further connects to Pakistan's nuclear armaments, and ultimately all the way to North Korea's nuclear arsenal. Even China with its immense demand for oil would get involved. Not to be alarmist, but nuclear weapons in the hands of Jihadi ambitions of worldwide-Sharia could lead the world into an age of nuclear war, with massive appropriations of Middle East oil territory by China and Russia. This would be bad for the West. We cannot let the "we love death" people win this one, or their suicidal death becomes our own. The costs are too high, so they must be stopped.

In conclusion, there is no neo-Vietnamization in Iraq. Conditions are as they should be, where they must internally control the dog fight. Our time, after nearly four years, has come to withdraw. We did what we needed to do, without troop buildups, and now it is up to the Iraqi government to control their Sharia-jihad, if they want to. Our military presence should be restricted only to the Kurdish areas bordering Iran. Iran is the next big fight, if they do not contain their nuclear ambitions. The world has asked them to stop, and is watching their uranium project carried out in shadowy darkness. In the cold light of day, and of reason, we shall see.


Ivan
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Anon
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:36 pm:   

Ivan,

A very good assessment of the Middle East situation. It matches comments by General Barry R. McCaffrey today with regards to the Vietnam comparison of Iraq.

With regards to Iran's development of nuclear weapons and missile launch systems. It is important to note that we are pushing forward with our missile defense systems.

Unlike Mohideen Ibramsha's belief that quantum weapons have been developed, something that is not true, but is possibly likely in the future for us or has been developed by other advanced civilizations out in the universe, we only have our high technology to rely upon with regards to defending against this threat. To that end we are decades ahead of the Iranians.

At present we are in the first stages of developing and fielding laser based missile defenses. We have also developed and deployed advanced missile interceptors with limited artificial intelligence capability capable of distinguishing between decoy and real missiles and picking the appropriate portion of a missile to hit in order to destroy it.

This technoloy was demonstrated on recent smart satellight probes we launched in terms of autnomous guidence systems. At present, according to open press sources, we are in the process of surveying and negotiating for base rights to deploy systems to defend Europe from an Iranian missile attack, as well as Japan.

It is highly likely that we will bring this capability online long before Tehran is able to mate a nuclear warhead to a missile.

In addition to this we are now begining to bring out old Cold War weapons systems for possible development and deployment. One of these projects was coded named Thor during the Cold War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

In the current race to contain the spread of WMD to states like Iran we have begun to build a balistic missile shield and precision strike KE weapons capable of taking out any bunker complex or deep buried facility without the need for a nuclear strike.

When we were struck by Osama and the towers fell, we learned a valuable lesson. As our forces fight in Iraq we are bringing online and into development a military capability that has never been seen before. One capable of reducing nation states to ruble from orbit.

I truly hope the people of the Middle Understand what they have done by striking Europe and the United States. In our labs and research facilities we are designing and bringing to test weapons they can never hope to match.

Should they continue this fight they will face forces beyoind their imagination

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 09:31 pm:   

http://www.missiledefenseadvocacy.org/index/Aug202006.html

"The reported ongoing discussions with Poland and the Czech Republic with the United States will lead to agreements to expand missile defense bases in both countries so that the United States and Europe with their populations will have protection against ballistic missile attacks stemming from the Middle East."

US Air Force Plans for Future War in Space
http://www.cndyorks.gn.apc.org/yspace/articles/usaf_trans_plan.htm

"While the Transformation Plan is looking ahead, and does not contain budget estimates for the programs identified as requirements, it does make it clear that space weapons are indeed envisioned as part of the future U.S. arsenal – and further that technologies to enable these weapon systems are now being researched and developed. The plan breaks out planned programs via time of desired deployment: near-term, defined as prior to 2010; mid-term, 2010-2015; and long-term, 2015 and beyond. ASAT capabilities, including destructive kinetic energy missiles and lasers, and space-strike weapons fall in the latter category."

It seems that Ed's discussion of his team's capability was right when he said he had access to a tech database that was greater than that available to Al Qa'eda via the internet.

Couple that to his knowledge of Advanced Weapons Systems, and now we know why the United States has a GPS tracker in his phone.

Within his head is the complete advanced military weapons systems capability of the United States and Europe. Now we know one of the reasons why PANAM 103 was destroyed over Lockerbee.

Friendly Ghost
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Anon
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 09:52 pm:   

Thanks Friendly,

Yes in my head are the complete tech specs to every advanced weapons sytem of the Cold War, advances in artificial intelligence, and our European and United States military command and control systems.

This is what was thrown into the streets by the Bush Administration and in concert with others purged from federal service brought down the republican government.

Couple that knowledge to neuroregeneration capability, poison resistance, HIV resistance due to a genetic mutation and an ability to visualize the battle space, fuse data streams into a coherent image, trisect the angle and solve the billiard problem and now you know what has been making deals with the churches and other groups to build a global intelligence network to oppose Al Qa'eda

For 24 years I read every classified document on the advanced military capabilites of every nation on this planet.

George Bush is a distant cousin of mine from our common ancestors on the May Flower. My side of the family got a little upset over him laying me off, getting us stuck in a War in Iraq and violating the Geneva Conventions and Laws of the United States.

So we and others decided to take down the Republican Government to prove a point.

When I travel the Mosad, and European Intelligence Services watch my back. While on vaction my resort was over flown by a helicopter from a European Warship off the coast.

Enough said I think. I have a number of things on my plate at the moment and have number of papers I need to write for my masters level program. I currently hold a 3.6 GPA despite brain damage, due to an ability to regenerate neuro-connections. I also have the capability to retrieve, due to a self induced hypnotic state, all data I have read over the course of my life.

The United States Government tried to teach me a lesson about national security, and in turn has been taught a lesson about what the house of Christ and the Knight Templars were playing with for the last 2000 years.

Hence why all church doors are open to me and my family.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 10:28 pm:   

Genetic HIV Resistance Deciphered
http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,66198,00.html
"Throughout the history of the AIDS epidemic, a few lucky people have avoided infection despite being exposed again and again. Now, researchers are traveling back in evolutionary time to understand why some people are resistant -- and in some cases virtually immune -- to the AIDS virus."

Friendly Ghost

Post Script

Siege of Malta (1565)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Malta_%281565%29

In 1565 a handful of the Knights of Malta faced the full force of the Ottoman Empire. They destroyed the forces thrown against them. The falcon was their symbol. Their leader was made a Prince of the Church for his actions

During the Korean War, I tended men that took fatal wounds yet kept on fighting and held the line until the battle ended. Then they died. During that war we faced the Chinese hordes.

Sometimes we have to be reminded of what is possible.
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Ivan
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 12:05 am:   

An alternate point of view on why Iran is suddenly belligerent, and dangerous.

"Control of oil prices is behind Iran's systematic military preparations to control the gulf's shipping lanes. It was behind the bloody Iraq-Iran war, and it is still a major Iranian objective. It made Iran occupy the islands in the gulf's exit and establish a base in the horn of Africa to stop US reinforcements coming through Suez. The possession of an atomic bomb will, at a minimum, neutralize Western resistance to Iran's gradual control of the flow and price of oil. Iran could counter any Western intention to intervene militarily against such control by a credible threat to blockade oil shipping or incinerate the gulf's oil fields and vulnerable loading facilities, thus plunging the West into a deadly economic crisis."

Read it all: A religious Iranian bomb
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378391159&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull

"The West is not likely to confront a fanatic, nuclear-armed Iran over the price of oil. It will most likely compromise, namely, cave in. Iran will then be able to initiate a huge transfer of wealth that will gradually impoverish and strangulate Western economies and facilitate their "peaceful" domination by Islam (see what Arab oil money has already achieved in Europe)."

Then, of course, there's the destruction of Israel, all on the Sharia-jihad imperialistic agenda of the Iranian ayatollahs...

And then there is this: Iran: The fourth option
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159125866030&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Their Ayatollah is Supreme, and the people are his enemy. This is the 'fourth option' where the people of Iran take back their power from the theocratic dictatorship and establish a legitimate democratic constitutional government, where the citizens are no longer treated like the enemy, and persecuted harshly. This is important.
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 07:10 am:   

In addition to this we are now begining to bring out old Cold War weapons systems for possible development and deployment. One of these projects was coded named Thor during the Cold War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

In the current race to contain the spread of WMD to states like Iran we have begun to build a balistic missile shield and precision strike KE weapons capable of taking out any bunker complex or deep buried facility without the need for a nuclear strike.
Ed
Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 08:36 pm: Anon


The possibilities of deploying a system like ‘Rods from gods’ does not preclude the existence of Quantum Potential weapons. QP weapons draw the required energy from the vacuum and use that energy to produce the desired result. There are physical requirements like the amount of time the energy needs to be applied to produce the desired effect.

http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001557.html
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A [third] seeks to turn radio waves into weapons whose powers could range "from tap on the shoulder to toast."

Obviously, the military is very interested in high-powered microwaves -- the Active Denial crowd control system is the best example. But microwave weapons, based in space? That's just wishful thinking.
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Of course before they were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the atom bombs too would have appeared as wishful thinking.

I would not rule out the existence of QP weapons. I only hope the youngsters in Iran consider the possibility of the existence of QP weapons and work towards abandoning the development of ‘nuclear technology’ that is obsolete in comparison to QP weapon systems.

I like to prepare for the most powerful potential arsenal of the enemy rather than suffer hubris assuming that the enemy has no such weapon as rumored in the web. It is infinitely better that the mullahs abandon their quest for a nuclear technology that is obsolete in particular when the acquisition of such technology is used as an excuse to initiate bloodshed by the enemies.
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Ivan
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 11:47 am:   


quote:

I like to prepare for the most powerful potential arsenal of the enemy rather than suffer hubris assuming that the enemy has no such weapon as rumored in the web. It is infinitely better that the mullahs abandon their quest for a nuclear technology that is obsolete in particular when the acquisition of such technology is used as an excuse to initiate bloodshed by the enemies. --Mohideen. (bold mine)



And who is the 'enemy'? is the West the enemy? Or is the Ayatolla Supreme the enemy? Or is tyranny of religious dogma the enemy? Is Islamic Sharia Jihad the enemy? Is western democratic freedom the enemy? Is equality of the sexes and tolerance of belief the enemy? Is scientific truths the enemy? Or is the biggest bomb the enemy?

Who is your 'enemy'?
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Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 01:58 pm:   

Blog-spam war:

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We are aware that some visitors to these pages come from highly respected sources, in media and government, so we do not wish to encourage criticism of any religion, though discussions of religion are not discouraged, nor are matters of national and international interest. Belief in God is everyone's privilege, though it is not anyone's privilege to politicize such belief into an aggressive agenda to subdue another's beliefs. Therefore, we do not wish to attract a Jihadi audience which would silence us. So remain mindful that because some visitors come from high places internationally, even the Vatican (per our stats), we want to maintain freedom of expression, and belief, without surrendering our rights to those who would muzzle our beliefs. To combat this effectively, the dialogues on these pages must pass the rigorous tests of reason, and argued with truths and not insults.

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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 07:12 am:   

Who is your 'enemy'?
Posted on Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 11:47 am: Ivan


My enemies are the ‘War Mongers’ irrespective of their nationality or religion.
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 07:28 am:   

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/19/ftn/main2199539.shtml
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A senior House Democrat said Sunday he will introduce legislation to reinstate the military draft, asserting that current troop levels are insufficient to sustain possible challenges against Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) said on CBS News' Face the Nation.
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Contrast the above implied threat to the current lame-duck administration of the Commander-in-Chief Bush that if they enlarge the conflict zone they better be prepared to have their children drafted and possibly sent to the war zone with the army groups’ response stated below.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/19/AR2006111901249_ pf.html
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The military's study, commissioned by Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Peter Pace, comes at a time when escalating violence is causing Iraq policy to be reconsidered by both the White House and the congressionally chartered, bipartisan Iraq Study Group. Pace's effort will feed into the White House review, but military officials have made it clear they are operating independently.

… Under this mixture of options, which is gaining favor inside the military, the U.S. presence in Iraq, currently about 140,000 troops, would be boosted by 20,000 to 30,000 for a short period, the officials said.

… Under the hybrid plan, the short increase in U.S. troop levels would be followed by a long-term plan to radically cut the presence, perhaps to 60,000 troops.
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To my computer-trained brain, the Army’s recommendation is excellent. If there would be a draft, the forces might increase; if there is no draft, the forces would be withdrawn to save our children. Great indeed!
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 07:42 am:   

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15788875/site/newsweek/page/2/
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There is no way to turn off this global economy, nor should one try. Every previous expansion of global capitalism has led to greater prosperity across the world. The story of the past 100 years is one of an ever-expanding pie. But this is a massive, complex process and requires enormous focus and attention. And while other nations around the world, from China to Chile, are playing to win, the United States as a government has barely focused on any of the major challenges or opportunities that it presents. We're too busy settling disputes between Sunnis and Shiites in downtown Baghdad.

A century ago, another great global power was similarly occupied halfway across its world, fighting a war and organizing the constitutional arrangements of Dutch farmers in the Southern Transvaal. Great Britain eventually won the Boer War, but it lost its focus on the economic challenges it faced. And finally it lost something else: its standing as one of the great global powers.
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Great economic lesson with implications on war mongering! If we go for the draft so that the current and future wars could be prosecuted, we lose on the economy and thus lose everything!
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Ivan
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:16 am:   

Maybe Iran is not so far from developing the bomb?

Report: Israeli spies active in Iran

"Iran has developed and tested a trigger device for a nuclear bomb, Israeli agents stationed there have told the White House, according to a report published in the New Yorker on Monday morning."

This is not what CIA reports said, that Iran is still far from developing a nuclear bomb. Does that now make Iran the 'enemy'?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 11:49 am:   

This is not what CIA reports said, that Iran is still far from developing a nuclear bomb. Does that now make Iran the 'enemy'?
Posted on Monday, November 20, 2006 - 10:16 am: Ivan


No, it does not make Iran the enemy. Let us not forget the Human Intelligence offered to start the Iraq war during March 2003. We were then told and were even given satellite photographs of WMD and we are in a mess now.

Israel might very much like to have Iran attacked by us immediately. Having suffered deception through the Human Intelligence offered that started the Iraq war; we need independent verification before we can attempt to neutralize the Iranian threat.

As we have said earlier, there is danger if the mullahs get the bomb; there is no such danger if the mullahs are removed from power and a democratic Iran gets the bomb. In any case the Iranians are repeatedly telling that they are developing the technology for civilian power only. Incidentally a lot of research might be carried out using components. Since when do we believe that mastering the use of a component leads to successful integration of many subsystems?

Any Human Intelligence that frightens us to initiate military action that preempts peaceful regime change is suspect.

Let me repeat some civilian leaders in trouble initiate wars to divert attention. The Israeli Prime Minister needs to divert attention. Are we, the Americans, also in need to divert attention; that too after a peaceful revolution has changed the Congress?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 06:09 am:   

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20796468-1702,00.html
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"If at the end, because of the US engagement in Iraq, Iran becomes nuclear, it might be seen as a mistake ... if we are now in a stage that the West is bogged in Iraq and not going to deal with the rogue regimes, historically it will be judged in one way."

Lt Gen Yaalon said he believed the western military could make effective air strikes on Iranian nuclear sites if the regime pushed ahead with its nuclear program.

He refused to say whether he thought Israel might carry out strikes on its own if the US refused to take party.
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http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=10364
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Concerning Iran, Livni said the Security Council made a decision in July that if the Iranians did not stop uranium enrichment, the international community would impose sanctions on Iran. And here already three months have passed and nothing has happened and now has come the time that the international community will place sanctions on Iran. “From the point of view of the Security Council decision we are three months late,” Livni said. Livni said Israel had lost a year of negotiations with the Palestinians after a Hamas victory in Palestinian elections. She said Hamas should not have been allowed to take part in the elections because they sponsor terrorism.
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http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=118573&version =1&template_id=43&parent_id=19
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“The CIA found no conclusive evidence, as yet, of a secret Iranian nuclear weapons programme running parallel to the civilian operations that Iran has declared to the International Atomic Energy Agency,” according to the article.

“A current senior intelligence official confirmed the existence of the CIA analysis, and told me that the White House had been hostile to it,” it said.

The United States has accused Iran of pursuing nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian energy programme.

The article, in the current issue of the magazine, discussed how Vice President Dick Cheney believed the Bush administration would deal with Iran if the Republicans lost control of Congress as they did in the November 7 election.

“If the Democrats won on November 7th, the vice president said, that victory would not stop the administration from pursuing a military option with Iran,” Hersh wrote, citing an unidentified source familiar with the discussion. – Reuters
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http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/opinion/?id=18392
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Commissions come and go. Cheney's influence over war-making will be somewhat diluted by the presence of Robert Gates at the Pentagon. But the vice president remains the ultimate in-fighter.
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Do we hear the war drum faintly?
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 06:27 pm:   

Elder Bush takes on son's Arab critics

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061121/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_defending_bush

ABU DHABI, United Arab Emirates - Former President George H.W. Bush took on Arab critics of his son Tuesday during a testy exchange at a leadership conference in the capital of this U.S. ally.


The Elder Bush went to Dhabi and was mocked by the audience.

What do you think the chances are that Ed will be treated kindly when he visits?

For a man that tried to save 75,000 Pakistani's from death in a quake and others along the Pacific rim faultlines following the great quake. I think he will be treated with respect.

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Alliance of Patriots
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   

In the Name of Liberty

http://www.persecution.org/suffering/newssummpopup.php?newscode=3985&PHPSESSID=0 2832fcf78079903c7a1653b0c32c4a0

This is a translation of a Persian article entitled “Persecution of the Church in Iran” from:

http://www.hra-iran.blogfa.com/post-257.aspx

The translator’s notes are enclosed in square braces.]

The article contained in the link above contains coded information for the Alliance of Patriots. It is keyed to our Director of Intelligence, Major Edward A. Chesky Jr.

The source material is verified via a code contained in the translators statement below.

The information was posted on a Iranian Muslim Underground Website. It was translated by an exile Iranian Group and forwarded by a Christian Group.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/185439.php


Coded Statement Follows:

[It is worth noting that the “Three Wise Men from the East” who foresaw the birth of Christ and worshipped the newly born Jesus were Iranian Magi. The Magi were the cast of the learned whose social function was to literate their fellow citizens in material and spiritual matters. Their line was brought to a brutal end by the Islamo-Arab hordes who believed that the only thing worth learning is the Qoran.]

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Anon
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 07:15 pm:   

For the Iranian Underground,

Message translated as follows:

We request advanced technical support in our effort to coordinate our opposition to the Iranian government. Your actions seem like majic to us and we are willing to learn. Our technical capabilites have been destroyed by the government.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 07:40 pm:   

The following is about an Iranian student leader of the underground in Iran and how he communicates to the people of Iran.

From IrainianVoice.org
http://www.iranianvoice.org/article1647.html



Fakhravar’s decision to run and his pesky refusal to keep quiet have put his life in danger. An Iranian tribunal informed his sister earlier this year that Iran’s anti-riot police have a standing order to shoot him on sight. But the threat of death appears not to have intimidated him, and he continues to devote his energies to the cause of Iranian democracy.

He does this by communicating with Iranian students, whom he characterizes as deeply hostile to the rulers in Tehran. It is a strange commentary on the extent to which Iranian speech is suppressed — and on the peculiarities of the Internet age — that among the best ways for Fakhravar to reach his audience is by speaking with American journalists whose work finds its way to the Iranian underground.

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Anon
Posted on Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   

Thanks Ghost,

To the students of Iran I have demonstrated how to use code speak to evade surveillence.

Lesson one in underground revolutionary opperations.

The rest is up to you

Look for support on the Internet. Our decentralized network will assist your efforts.

Ed
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Anon
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 04:39 pm:   

U.S. officer awaits Abu Ghraib decision
FORT MEADE, Md. - The buck stops with Lt. Col. Steven Lee Jordan

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061122/ap_on_re_us/abu_ghraib_officer

As Abu Graib descended into Chaos a conflict erupted in the Chain of Command between this man and the CDR of the MI Brigade he belonged to. I served with Col Pappas in Korea years ago. I knew him well then and he was fine officer.

Many men were tainted by the scandle of Abu Griab. At the trial of Col Jordan many things will come out and many fingers will be pointed.

As I sit here in my study. My wife is downstairs resting and we are begining to plan the restoration of the outside of our 110 year old home in a fine properous neighborhood.

I have in my hands a compass and ruler and draw two circles on a piece of paper and from the point where the two circles touch I draw an arc. From where the arc touches the edge of the two circles I two curves. From the intersection of those curves I draw a circle. I then take my straight edge and draw three lines connecting a series of points and create a perfect Isoceles triangle in a circle.

Some truths are hard to argue with.

Ed
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Anon
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 06:10 pm:   

Poisoned ex-spy 'had powerful enemies'

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/22/uk.spypoisoned.reut/index.html

LONDON, England (CNN) -- An Italian contact of a former Russian spy who was poisoned in London said on Wednesday the Russian mafia and corrupt government officials had a strong motive to silence Alexander Litvinenko.

I still rember the old former KGB/DGI officers in Mexico City when we out for dinner. One smiled at me and made a gesture as if pulling a gun from under his jacket. The head of group was a tall thin, hard older man, from the days of the Cold War.

The resturaunt we ate in provided tall attractive young women for well heeled men whose tastes ran to that sort of thing. The head of the group had just come down from upstairs after fulfilling his desires with a young attractive woman, who cringed in fear as he smiled and carressed her face.

I still rember the look he gave me as he left with his bodyguard. Then came a poison cocktail of drugs to ruin one of the finest minds of the cold war out of spite after the theft of my laptop.

The stakes were high and the rules were if you failed you died.

Russian mafia worms way into Mexican drug cartels
BY SUSANA HAYWARD
Knight Ridder News Service
http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7285-14.cfm

One last game played on the streets of Mexico city for a laptop.

This is what left me broken and driven to the edge of madness.

I am now done for the evening working on a paper from school and posting a few notes here.

I have looked at the seismic data and like Ivan remain concerned.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 07:26 pm:   

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/cm/main/viewArticle.aip?id=10134&page=all
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As the gap between rich and poor has widened to an unprecedented degree, the corruption of the ruling mullahs, and their ostentatious way of life, have made a mockery of slogans like “Islamic solidarity.”
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The above article is excellent; it is a must read.

I seek further information regarding the ‘ostentatious way of life’ of the ruling mullahs. A 70 plus Iranian professor in Washington, DC area informed me that in Iran one could have 4 regular wives and 50 temporary wives. Is there any open information regarding the number of wives of some of the ruling mullahs?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 07:37 pm:   

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=6713
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If Arabs and Muslims in general are not only espousing plans for the destruction of Israel, but also openly advocating those genocidal designs as a “solution” to the Middle East problem, then Israel has every right in the world to undertake whatever measures necessary to guarantee its existence and security. What Ahmadinejad has on his tongue, most Arabs have in their minds.

The Arab mindset will change only after a string of substantial defeats that will show them they are losing at every turn in their battle with Israel.
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Are we looking for a repeat of 1967?

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/22/africa/ME_GEN_Israel_Olmert.php
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"We heard the voices in the past of leaders of nations that are talking about the liquidation of the Jewish people," Olmert said. "We can't afford ... to listen and not to react."
"We can't allow anyone in any place in the world to continue their routine without responding," Olmert said.

… Israel's official policy is that an Iranian nuclear weapon would endanger the whole Western world, not just Israel, and Israel would not lead the effort to contain the threat.

… Olmert said he discussed the problem with U.S. President George W. Bush during his talks at the White House last week. "I found understanding and commitment by the great friend of the state of Israel that resides in the White House," he said.
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We are concerned about the ‘commitment’ and hope that the Commander-in-Chief does not initiate attack on Iran. Any attack on Iran would result in avoidable bloodshed; the better course of action is to change the regime by peaceful means.
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 07:40 pm:   

Iran's Sex Slaves Suffer Hideously Under Mullahs
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581370/posts

Regime Change in Iran: An Analytic Framework
Strategic Insights, Volume II, Issue 11 (November 2003
http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/nov03/middleEast2.asp

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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 08:06 pm:   

http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/nov03/middleEast2.asp

Iranian dissidents are fragmented, ranging from monarchists to the notorious Mujaheddin Khalq (MEK) which was allied with Saddam Hussein. The virtual elimination of social freedoms make it hard for Iranians to coalesce around any single group. The opposition is thus fragmented, not unlike the opposition to the Shah. There is a yearning for a charismatic leader who can unify the opposition but as witnessed with Khomeini, this is not necessarily desirable. The lack of dissident unity makes them prone to targeting by Iranian security forces.[26

In a word Ed used the Tactics, Techniques and Procedures outlined in this document to bring about regime change in the United States through a conspiracy of Patriots. He unified a network of dissidents and coordianted the leakage of corruption, violation of Civil Rights and the limits the Constitution placed on a President to bring about regime change.

What they are missing in Iran is a man of the same caliber with the skills to coordiante the movement of pieces on the great board, through the media, contacts and the internet under the watchful eyes of the security services. To unify all the groups will take a man above men. To accomplish that he also needs an outside group to coordinate with in the great game.

Sometime you have to make do with budgetary constraints. Look at what Ed did with a home computer. He matched the best of the world in terms of predictions from a desktop PC & Laptop and charted earth's gravitational field before NASA.

Shah’s son urges action, not rhetoric, on Iran
(Reuters)
30 May 2006
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2006/May /middleeast_May672.xml&section=middleeast&col=

One would think the Iranian dissidents could learn a lesson from that.

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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 03:58 am:   

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/21/1518247
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What matters is a lot of people who know the situation well, well, believe it's still very much on the table. On the other hand, there are other people equally as skeptical about this administration, how it makes decisions, that say -- people I talk with that say, the reality of today, the collapse of Iraq, the weakened political position of the President, the fact that the republicans are -- many leading republicans are not only against the current policy, but very worried about ‘08, will mitigate against something, that at this point seems to unnecessary as bombing Iran without talking to them.
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If the interest of the Republican Party outweighs that of the ‘Armament Industry’ we could hope that there would be no attack immediately. Could we hope that the ‘Armament Industry’ would like to carry the population along? After all the ‘Armament Industry’ needs the best and brilliant minds to do R&D for them. Could we hope?
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Ivan
Posted on Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 10:30 am:   

Heir apparent to Iran's Monarchy gives reasonable advice to US.

Here is Pahlavi's perspective on the Iranian bomb:
"Pahlavi, who trained in the United States as a jet fighter pilot, said Iran has the right to nuclear technology, but not to threaten other nations with it.

“It was never a question of Iran having the right -- the problem is the finger on the trigger,” he said, referring to Ahmadinejad’s public calls for Israel’s destruction.

However, Pahlavi said the United States should not pursue military means to take away Iran’s uranium-enrichment capability. Bush has said military options are on the table but has stressed the need for diplomatic talks.

Instead of a military strike, Pahlavi said global leaders should help Iran dissident groups’ overthrow the current regime from within."
I have to agree with him, that the US and other world powers should talk to Iran, but not necessarily to its Supreme Ayatollah regime, but to the people of Iran who desire freedom and democracy. Technology in the hands of responsible and reasonable people is not a threat, but in the hands of religious fanatics is a threat. If as Pahlavi says, that Iran is behind this current world jihadi phenomenon, which is only partly true since Saudi Arabia is in there too, not to mention the emotional sentiments of Palestinians and the general Muslim public from Africa to Indonesia who are manipulated by their religious masters, then the dethroning of Ayatollahood in Iran is an important step towards world peace.

In a recent survey, there is popular support in Iran and the world for a constitutional monarchy in Iran. Perhaps this form of government, with respect for human rights of men and women in Iran, is the better suited solution than a democratic secular constitutional government. Every people should choose the form of government that best suits their cultural sentiments, as long as these governments protect them in their right as free human beings equally, both men and women, who are free from coercion, whether that of the mullahs or corruption of government. If the Iranian people can pull off this change of regime in their own country, there would be no reason for war. In fact, the world peace would be one step closer to reality, even if Iranian scientists and engineers developed nuclear energy and weapons. But these same technologies in the hands of religious cultist thugs is a danger to the whole world. There is a lot riding on Iran at this time, not just for people of Iran, but for all of us.

Ivan
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ANON
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 10:21 am:   

Poisoned Russian implicates Putin before death
Kremlin denies charge of former KGB agent as ‘nothing but nonsense’
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15863307/

The Department of Veteran's Affairs, Christian Private Hospitals and best private doctors in the world threw everything in they had in the way conventional and experimental medicine to save my life and rebalance my brain chemestry after the KGB and Cuban DGI poisoned me to take me out of the great game of spy versed spy.

In all things there is the truth and lies. In this age of plausable denial ex KGB agents have sold their souls to the Kremlin to take care of problems in a way that can not be traced back to Moscow. With access to hightech poisons they make problems go away.

With no other alternative I turned to the Churches and built a network. This world of betrayal, poison and espionage is the world I have lived in for 24 years.

As he went into the darkness Alexander Litvinenko glimpse the truth. I wish him well and when it is my time to pass will look him in the eye and raise a glass to his courage.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 10:35 am:   

A spy comes in from the cold
The retired director of MI5 publishes her first novel
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0308/p15s01-bogn.html

It was the head of a small contingent of MI5, Britain's domestic intelligence service, who tapped Ms. Rimington. He enlisted her to become his clerk-typist; never mind that she was trained as a historical archivist and didn't know how to type. Her "real" job, it turns out, was to attend as many of these meet-and-greet soirees as possible and attempt to identify other countries' spies for her compatriots.

Thus began a lengthy career, during which Rimington worked her way up through MI5's counterespionage, countersubversion, and counterterrorism units to become the first female director of MI5, and the first to be publicly named.

Just what network has been built in the shadows of Internet?

The Former director of MI5 did this stuff under the cover of being a clerk typist.

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Alliance of Patriots
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 10:45 am:   

http://www.cnn.com/

A former Russian spy who died Thursday in London was poisoned by radiation, Britain's Health Protection Agency said, and experts are searching for "residual radioactive material" at a number of locations he may have visited.

Alliance of Patriots

In the shadows we observe, report and track. In the daylight we teach, work and love. We are a legion and we will not be bowed by threat of poison, blackmail or loss of jobs.

We fight to free mankind from abominations such as this.

Our ancestors founded this nation and wrote its' constitution.

For us the words, "Give me liberty or death" still echo in our ears.

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Anon
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 04:12 pm:   

Polonium-210 one of world's rarest elements
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/11/24/uk.spy.polonium.ap/index.html

The fact that terrorists, former KGB and others, are at large with sophisticated poisons, to include radioactive isotopes to silience peaceful opposition to dictatorships is begining to send shock waves through the world intelligence communites.

Great Brittian has mobilized its COBRA team which is its top-level Cabinet team that gathers for civil emergencies. The fact that traces of this poison have been found in a hotel sushi bar, means that others have been exposed to traces of Polonium-210 as well. Great Britton and the world now know what has fallen into the hands of ex-KGB operatives coupled to the Russian Mob.

When I told them that I had been poisoned with a neurotoxin by the KGB and DGI they laughed and said I was paranoid. Then the blood tests came back from Duke University and they stopped laughing.

Men and women armed with radioactive poisons have struck in the heart of Great Britton and now the cold fear of what they have done is spreading across the world.

As I look at the tremor in my left hand and upon the gravity map produced by the Europeans, you begin to understand what we are faced with in this new age and what I fought to expose.

We will never bow to this even if it means we go to our graves poisoned by radiation.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   

Polonium

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/intro/polonium.htm

The purpose of the District's Manhattan Project was to build an atomic bomb. Polonium-210 was vital to this program, because it was to be used in a neutron source that would ensure initiation of a chain reaction. An initiator is a device that produces a timed burst of neutrons to initiate a fission chain reaction in a nuclear weapon. Initiators made of polonium-210 and beryllium were located at the center of the fissile cores of early atomic weapons. The highly radioactive isotope of Polonium (Po-210) is a strong alpha emitter. Beryllium will absorb alphas and emit neutrons. This isotope of polonium has a half life of almost 140 days, and a neutron initiator using this material needs to have the polonium, which is generated in a nuclear reactor, to be replaced frequently. To supply the initiation pulse of neutrons at the right time, the polonium and the beryllium need to be kept apart until the appropriate moment and then thoroughly and rapidly mixed by the implosion of the weapon.

Access to Polonium-210 also implies access to nuclear weapons development technology.

Now we know why GB's COBRA Team has been activated

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Anon
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   

Yes Friendly Ghost,

Access to Polonium-210 does mean that whoever did this had access to nuclear weapons development technology and radioactive material production facilities. Polonium-210 has a very short half life to put this plan in motion meant that it was planned and coordinated and timed very carefully.


I also note that this poisoning of the EX-KGB, FSB officer comes during the anniversery period of the Russian Revolution, the November Revolution when using western calendars.

The KGB diehards and communists decided to make him an example of what they can do. They made a statement about the fall of the Soviet Union with him and the fact they are still players in the great game. A settling of old scores from the Cold War.

Now you know part of the truth about the monsters that walk in the shadows and what they are armed with. This goes back to the days of PANAM 103 and Operations Cactus Coup and Kogi Campaign. The Soviet's Operation Ryan and the fall of the Berlin wall and the Conrad Spy Ring and the Nuclear Defense secrets of NATO.

Ed
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Ivan
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 09:49 pm:   

Iran gets Russian missiles.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378474759&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti cle%2FShowFull

The Great Game continues, with Russian made surface to air missiles, as described: "Russian officials say that the missiles are purely defensive weapons with a limited range.
According to the Interfax news agency, the Tor-M1 system can identify up to 48 targets and fire at two targets simultaneously at a height of up to 6,000 meters (20,000 feet)."


Exactly what are these Iranian missiles supposed to shoot down? Not commercial airliners passing over their air-space, I hope. Not cruise missiles, these could wipe out huge target areas coming in from 'under the radar' low altitudes at supersonic speeds? Or Minuteman ICBM missiles, dropping in from near space? Not really sure what Iran has in mind for these missiles, except other than for show of force, to cover their airspace against military fighter jets? I suspect the technology is already obsolete, if that is so. These procured missiles appear to be SAMs.
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Anon
Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 09:50 pm:   

It has taken me the better part of a decade to put the pieces together of the man that ordered my assassination and poisoning.

I have demonstrated the reason for it and one of the reasons PANAM 103 was destroyed with my skill as a code breaker and analyst. Now you know why the Israel Mossad and my family have thrown a security network around me.

Below you will begin to see indicators of how the mind of the ex-director chairman of the KGB Kryuchkov functions. He and his network ex-agents and contacts orbit around Putin and conduct operations on behalf of what they see as the interests of Russia. A shadow KGB with global reach funded by Russian mob money and arms sales.

http://www.cdi.org/russia/Johnson/6325-11.cfm

In January, when he (Putin) held a Kremlin celebration of Vladimir I. Lenin's founding of the Soviet security services, Kryuchkov sat in the first row.

This ties the date of the Polonium-210 poisoning to Kryuchkov and the aniversery of the November Revolution.

http://www.blythe.org/Intelligence/readme/picadilly

At the KGB Center, Golubev visited the secret research Laboratory No. 12, which was a part of the KGB Operational Technical Support Directorate. Laboratory No. 12 was referred
to in intelligence circles as the "Chamber," or "Kamera." KGB General Viktor Chebrikov, Andropov's closest subordinate in the
KGB, was then the Director of the "Chamber." The "Chamber" developed, among many technical devices, chemical substances used to incapacitate political enemies and antidotes to these substances, if Western intelligence agencies used them against KGB agents. For example, Laboratory No. 12 successfully
developed the "spray gun" and poison used to kill two Ukrainian Nationalist anti-Soviet activists in Munich in the 1950s: Ivan
Rebet and Stefan Bandera.

Golubev received instructions in the "Chamber," and the next week he flew to Sofia with Ivan Surov. Surov's job was to give the Bulgarian Intelligence Service practical instruction in the use of special poisons, which could not be traced after the victim's death. Golubev and Surov discussed with the Bulgarians intelligence officers the various options of killing
Markov. They worked out one plan to use a poison that could be surreptitiously dissolved in tea, coffee, any liquid that Markov might drink.

This ties the method and means to Kryuchkov, as to his pattern and approach to taking care of problems.

Ed
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 06:18 am:   

Damned if you do; damned if you don’t.

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/focusoniraq/2006/No vember/focusoniraq_November196.xml&section=focusoniraq
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As Vice President Dick Cheney took off on a trip to Saudi Arabia on Friday, the White House said there would be no change to Bush’s planned summit with Maliki even as a top Shia cleric said he would pull his faction out of the Baghdad government if the meeting takes place.
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Maliki’s government is in trouble whether he meets Commander-in-Chief Bush or not. If he does meet Bush, Sadr could cause the collapse of the government by withdrawing his support as threatened. If Maliki does not travel to Jordan he runs the risk of losing US protection and thus his stay on earth itself could become tenuous.

If his government is going to fail either by withdrawal or by his own eventual elimination, Maliki stands a better chance of survival and show of independence from USA by finding a last minute excuse to avoid the travel out of Baghdad.

Are we prepared for that eventuality? Do we have plans for the Commander-in-Chief to visit any other nearby location in case it turns out that Maliki cannot travel after Air Force One is midway over the Atlantic?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 08:37 am:   

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/25/world/europe/25spy.html?hp&ex=1164430800&en=cc 06cf9a7758c5ff&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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Scientists were astounded at the use of the rare and hard-to-produce substance, polonium 210, which is dangerous when breathed, injected or ingested.
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http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3tV3IYiiEJgJ:periodic.lanl.gov/elements/84. html+polonium&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5&lr=lang_en
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Polonium, also called Radium F, was the first element discovered by Mme. Curie in 1898 while seeking the cause of radioactivity of pitchblend from Joachimsthal, Bohemia.

… In 1934, scientists discovered that when they bombarded natural bismuth (209Bi) with neurons, 210Bi, the parent of polonium, was obtained. Milligram amounts of polonium may now be prepared this way, by using the high neutron fluxes of nuclear reactors.

Polonium is available commercially on special order from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory.
===

So getting Polonium need not involve Intelligence agencies. Any individual permitted to make the special order to the Oak Ridge National Laboratory could receive the same.

We have posted this information so that the search for the culprit of recent use of Polonium is open to consider all the enemies of the deceased rather than his political enemies alone. Concentrating on the political enemies alone risks large scale bloodshed, which we hope to avoid.
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Ivan
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 08:50 am:   

Sadr is playing hard ball; it's a dog fight.

quote:

Maliki’s government is in trouble whether he meets Commander-in-Chief Bush or not. If he does meet Bush, Sadr could cause the collapse of the government by withdrawing his support as threatened. If Maliki does not travel to Jordan he runs the risk of losing US protection and thus his stay on earth itself could become tenuous. --Mohideen



Your assessment is right, Sadr by refusing to cooperate with Maliki is essentially challenging his office of state. This is a direct threat to Maliki's right to rule over Iraq. Like any two chiefs who challenge each other in battle, it is now up to Maliki, a Kurd, to put Sadr, a Shia, in his place, since the Iraqi Prime Minister's authority as executive of his nation is put to test. Meeting Bush is not a lesser chief's call, but the Prime Minister's, and if challenged by a lesser chief, no matter how bloody violent his internal army, the executive must repulse this challenge. Once again, it is an internal 'dog fight' and the bigger dog must win. If Sadr is allowed to win, then Maliki's authority is not only weakened, but in fact nulled by the lesser dog, which now becomes top dog.

In effect, Bush's visit should not change its agenda, because it is a test of authority as to who is in charge in Iraq. Is it Maliki, or is it Sadr? How Maliki handles this challenge to his executive authority, how he rounds up his support from all the members of his congress and advisors, and how the people who elected him into office support him, will determine whether or not he is truly Prime Minister, or a failed leader. We shall see. This is a moment of truth for Iraq.

Ivan
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Ivan
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 10:29 am:   

Is Lebanon ready for a military coup?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6182800.stm
BBC News: Lebanon death 'may herald coup'

It looks like the elected government there is under attack. The country, once 90% Christian, is now only 40% Christian, 60% Muslim, which means it's on its way to Sharia government. Only a military coup by Christian commanders could stem the tide. Can it happen?
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Mohideen Ibramsha
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 01:01 pm:   

Only a military coup by Christian commanders could stem the tide.
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 10:29 am: Ivan


Would that not lead to a civil war in Lebanon?
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Ivan
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 01:18 pm:   

Yes, Mohideen. A Christian commanded military coup in Lebanon would lead to a civil war, same as they had before when Christians were still in the majority, after the influx of Palestinian refugees into Lebanon. The Christians had been largely under attack ever since. How do your repulse such an attack? If Muslims cannot accomodate democratic government, then such a war becomes a necessity. The right of Christian self defense cannot be abrogated by Muslim attacks, killing leaders, and threats of civil war. The war is then result. Its outcome will shape future Lebanon as either democratic or Sharia. If there is civil war in Lebanon, same as there is civil war in Iraq, it is a Muslim thing. Where there was a military coup in Thailand, there was no civil war. If Muslims were not pressing Lebanon, there would be no civil war. But Lebanon is not Thailand. In a force of arms, God will be the judge.
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Anon
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   

I concur with your assessments of the situation in Lebanon and Iraq. What we need to realize is that the Muslim population of Lebanon is split between Sunni and Shia Muslims and that a defacto alliance of Sunni and Christians could turn the tide in Lebenon.

At present the United States is attempting to build a firebreak against Shia extremists (Iran, Hezzbola and Hamas) by attempting to form a Sunni alliance of Muslim states, Egypt, Morroco, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and Turkey to counter Iran's rise to Power.

What has been put on the table according to open source reporting is this.

1. Increased aid in terms of military and economic assistance.

2. Increased Intelligence Sharing

3. Increased effort to resolve the Palistinian Situation with aid being funneled from the Sunni States to the PLO faction, not Hamas. This would include assistance to the PLO supporing Palestinian populations outside of the West bank and Gaza. Overtures to the Europeans on this issue are being made. As part of his trip to Jordan President Bush intends to give the PLO faction residing in Jordan a tacit nod of support in their battle to wrest control of the Palestinian government from Hamas.

4. Expansion of The United States Ballistic Missile Defense to the Sunni Alliance.

5. Decreased calls for demoncratic reforms in the Sunni States.

Over all its a very pragmatic approach to solving the situation. One senses the guiding hand of James Baker and others behind this initiative.

As to Iraq, according to my sources inside the Pentagon, planning has started to address the worse case situation. This includes fragmentation of Iraq and full blown Civil war. As part of this effort Guaranties of safety for the Sunni and Kurdish populations are being made in the event the country fragments.

Ed
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Anon
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 03:19 pm:   

With regards to the Polonium-210 we need to also take a look at Russian Politics. Putin, unless he changes the constitution of Russia, must leave office in 2008.

One must remember that the Russian's are masters of the Great Game and that the KGB has often been the King Maker in Russian Politics. Kryuchkov, has long been used to making things happen behind the scenes.

It could very well be that this use of Polonium 210 was designed to ensure that Putin does not attempt to change the constitution and bows out in 2008.

As Churchhill said the Russian are an enigma wraped in a puzzle and Kryuchkov has spent decades weaving webs and playing deep games to advance his interests.

One would think that given this that this could have been a message from the Old Guard of the KGB that they are still a force to be reckoned with.

Ed
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Friendly Ghost
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 03:38 pm:   

Some Russians Believe New “Putsch” Could Happen
August 22, 2005

Polling Data

This Aug. 19 marks the fourteenth anniversary of the unsuccessful coup attempt in the Soviet Union. In your opinion, is the recurrence of such events possible in modern-day Russia?

Quite possible
25.6%

Somewhat possible
22.9%

Somewhat not possible
24.4%

Not possible
18.4%

Don’t know
8.7%

Within Russia they play games for power. Russia sits on the world's largest reserves of natural gas and has the world's sixth largest reserves of oil.

I fought in Korea and remember the days of the KGB. IN flexing its muscle the old guard of the KGB wields influence from behind the scenes making or breaking presidents.

Remember what Ed did in coordinating the downfall of the Republicans. Now the former director of the KGB makes his move, unlike Ed he uses radioactive poison to make a point.

Friendly Ghost
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Anon
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 04:19 pm:   

http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/missile/saudi.htm
Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia has an inventory of Chinese made CSS-2 missiles. they are currently targeted on Iranian population centers.

Pakistan has the nuclear warheads for the missiles and in the event that Iran goes Nuclear Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are prepared to extend the nuclear umbrella to Saudi Arabia.

At present Saudi Arabia has enought nuclear capable missiles to destroy all Iranian population centers. All they lack is the nuclear warheads for the missiles.

AS the Middle east fragments, the battle lines of the next phase of the conflict are being drawn.

Ed
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Anon Anon
Posted on Saturday, November 25, 2006 - 05:27 pm:   

From the ashes of the Cold War two great minds have met via the Internet.

Kryuchkov and Major Edward Chesky.

At 30 years old Ed was recognized for creation of new encryption systems, breaking of codes, reconstruction of Soviet War plans with nothing but a code breaker's plastic ruler and his mind.

At 40 years he trisected the angle and solved Al Hazen's Billiard Problem with a child compass and ruler despite brain damage from a systemic poison given him by the KGB & Cuban DGI using the Quadratrix of Hippias.

He then charted the Earth's gravity field using laptops, PCs and univeristy computers.

Now Kryuchkov sends him a message in the clear he can understand. He kills a man that looks like Ed, shares similar characteristics, aims and goals with a radioactive isotope that is used as the hear of a trigger of an atomic bomb. In doing so he confuses the issue with disinformation, using the fallout from the poisoning to advance a agenda he knows. Setting the conditions for a post Putin take over of government and showing the people of Russia the KGB still has a long arm.

A interesting match

Anon Anon
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