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     Mohideen Ibramsha |
I am starting this thread with a heavy heart. I feel that there is secret planning for a repeat of 9/11 possibly on 11/9 just after the 2006 elections. There are apprehensions of the coming election getting rigged – possibly by virus attack – as we are informed that the source code of the voting machines is public now. Can the war mongers get away with rigging the polls? Yes, they can. God forbid but what if the old Aircraft Carrier Eisenhower is attacked on 11/9? What if the lives of about 6,000 soldiers are laid at the altar of the war machine so that the public fury could be whipped as it was done on 9/11 inducing a large number of teens to sign up? From http://harpers.org/TheNextWar.html we find: === My own failure to act, in time, to that effect in 1964 was pointed out to me by Wayne Morse thirty-five years ago. Morse had been one of only two U.S. senators to vote against the Tonkin Gulf resolution on August 7, 1964. He had believed, correctly, that President Lyndon Johnson would treat the resolution as a congressional declaration of war. … They believed that they were simply expressing bipartisan support for U.S. air attacks on North Vietnam three days earlier, which the president and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara had told them were in “retaliation” for the “unequivocal,” “unprovoked” attack by North Vietnamese torpedo boats on U.S. destroyers “on routine patrol” in “international waters.” === Today Eisenhower is of course in international waters! The Muslim Street is excitable. If a black Ops causes the Eisenhower to be sunk, the war mongers do get the permission to unleash their firepower on Iran. The Iranian government would deny any involvent with Eisenhower. The Muslims are not going to believe the West that it was indeed Iran that attacked as quite a few remember the WTC attack and how it was blamed on a few Muslims from Saudi Arabia. So the Muslim Street would react to the reaction of the war mongers. Result: avoidable bloodshed on a very large sclae. Can we join Daniel Ellsberg in hoping that a few with security clearances would risk their lives to save the lives of the American teenagers? Quoting from http://harpers.org/TheNextWar.html again: === Assuming Hersh’s so-far anonymous sources mean what they say—that this is, as one puts it, “a juggernaut that has to be stopped”—I believe it is time for one or more of them to go beyond fragmentary leaks unaccompanied by documents. That means doing what no other active official or consultant has ever done in a timely way: what neither Richard Clarke nor I nor anyone else thought of doing until we were no longer officials, no longer had access to current documents, after bombs had fallen and thousands had died, years into a war. It means going outside executive channels, as officials with contemporary access, to expose the president’s lies and oppose his war policy publicly before the war, with unequivocal evidence from inside. === Once the elections get rigged and if we are in a new and more dangerous war just after the election, none would dare question the legitimacy of the elections. Would the US Street also succumb to anger as the Muslim Street? Can we alert the US before the war mongers manipulate the perception of the population? | ||
| Ivan |
Interesting speculation, though it borders treason. To claim American elections are rigged, or potentially rigged as if in some thrid world country, is inciteful of seditious behavior. Unless proven, empty and not reasonable, but certainly an emotional claim. To likewise claim the government baits its own soldiers to death by 'setting them up' as sitting ducks is likewise treasonous emotionalism, not based on fact. The issue of who is a 'war monger' is further blurred since America was attacked by foreign nationals with a jihadi agenda on 911, has the right to defend itself against future attacks, and thus the label applies to those who attacked us. Jihadis are war mongers, not Americans, no matter what goes for reason on the highly charged and emotional Arab street. | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
To claim American elections are rigged, or potentially rigged as if in some thrid world country, is inciteful of seditious behavior. Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 09:48 am: Ivan http://www.shortnews.com/shownews.cfm?id=57891&CFID=488530&CFTOKEN=14136775 === 10/25/2006 10:51 PM ID: 57891 Potential for Election Fixing Exposed Through Voting Machine Flaws Computer disks with vote-counting source code in public hands and claims that original factory passwords are still in use are just two serious flaws exposed in Diebold electronic voting machines due to be used in the up-coming US elections. Many other potential holes for exploitation remain, including password over-rides which could lock-out local officials and open the doors to hackers. It seems that votes could be rigged, leaving no paper record to enable a subsequent recount. Researchers at Princeton University have demonstrated how the addition of rogue source code could easily turn an election result on its head. Assurances by Diebold leave even Rep. Gov. Robert Ehrlich unconvinced, who urges voting by absentee ballot. === Notice that Rep. Gov. Robert Ehrlich urges absentee ballot so that there is a paper trail! | ||
| Mohideen Ibramsha |
The issue of who is a 'war monger' is further blurred since America was attacked by foreign nationals with a jihadi agenda on 911, has the right to defend itself against future attacks, and thus the label applies to those who attacked us. Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 09:48 am: Ivan http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/10570 === More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll. === [DELETED] === Who is a war monger: a cave dweller or the military industrial complex? | ||
| Ivan |
It's idiotic to fall for this. The wording is sly and deceitful, that a third 'suspects' or took no action is confusing two separate issues. This is rubbish, especially since the other two jets hijacked by the Islamic Jihadists were headed for the White House and the Pentagon. Only the Pentagon one made it, while the brave souls on the other jet took it down and perished in a Pennsylvania field. Mohideen, I must ask you to cease and disist posting such rubbish on the Humancafe boards, we do not support such trash of not only weak intellect but seditious treason. Stop it. Ivan | ||
| anon |
Well said Ivan, The whole theory that 9/11 was not conducted by the Jihadists is rubbish. The core of this whole issue is that the leaders of the intelligence community had long been looking at the terrorists but felt they were stupid ignorant primatives incapable of conducting the 9/11 attacks. Because of this they discarded the intelligence that indicated it out of arrogence and racial predjudice and labled anyone that said they could do it a crank or delusional. As a result we were blind sided by 9/11 out of arrogence. Having been in the Middle East I have seen that the Muslem people are not stupid. This take on events is far different and closer to the truth than the rubbish that Mohideen is spouting regarding 9/11. What I have tried to do is prove that individuals like Osama are capable of great things using only primative tools. This was done to show that a human mind has the capability exceed all expectations. By way of proof I just got my midterm grades from University. Despite all damage to my CNS, working 60 hours a week on top of school and having only a few hours to study I have maintained a 3.6 GPA in a masters level program. Couple this ability to 24 years of tactical and wargame experience, covert operations, code breaking, advanced weapons expertise and you start getting the picture of what human beings are capable of doing. The sum of it is that the intelligence community and leadership of the United States failed to take Osama seriously. He proved them wrong. I also decided to show the United States Intelligence Community that Osama was not a fluke and that people exist capable of matching or exceeding his abilities. It was a lesson to teach the intelligence community the danger of underestimating a single man. It was also to prove what the caliber of the team was that won the Cold War. In High School in 1976 I was writting computer code on state of the art computers donated to our school by major corporations. Today we are still in the process of wiring all our schools for the Internet. In elementary school I and my peers were being taught about lasers and given demonstrations of how lasers work. We went on to become the leaders of the Cold War and Major Corporations. Compared to us Osama is a deprived child. Youngsters I was teaching advanced weapons theory to in 1997 were building one shot Lasers capable of blasting holes in concrete blocks. From the streets of any city I have access to the world wide web and a technical cadre that has capabilities that Al Qaeda only dreams of. All of this was done to prove a point to the President and the Intelligence Community about what one man could do given limited resources and only his mind and creativity to draw upon. During the Cold War I was among the greatest of game masters. In Saudi Arabia I told my translater that we had capabilities that far exceeded anything they had. Now you know why I was brought back to break Al Qeada's code speak. I also note I found a back door into our Nuclear Launch System years ago. The leak has since been repaired. Had I been Osama, I can assure you that my actions at the time would have been far different. Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called the children of God. One hopes that you lock this thread to keep more dribble off of it All My Best Ed |